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Probably not many Mark! Was there a build date on it by any chance? I think the old style type code dates it to between 1984 and 1995 - 4500 suggests taller than 8'6" and the door markings (and features) suggest a "palletwide" box - wonder if it dates to early "tunnel" years? Nice catch. :)Here's a more standard sized one, this one overlooks West Hampstead NLL platforms, sadly I think it's since been "repainted" - this one doesn't ever seem to have had proper interchange markings.

Whoops You're correct as it is an 8'6" pallet-wide box Martyn. Should have looked at it before posting. No build date decipherable but I suspect early 1990s.

Tried to examine that one at West Hampstead from the other side and was refused permission. They would not believe that I only wanted some pictures of an old box!

How about one with a pantograph on top...

There are plenty of 'unloved' Freightliner containers in various liveries scattered around. This one was photographed last October and is all that remains of the original 40 x 8 x 8 box. Manufactured by Adamsons of Stockport for those that may care. and I think there won't be many of you. ...

Try here ...

http://www.chocen.tv/index.php

No shunting and less freight though!

You have to do something when on night turn and this makes a change from my usual subject [wagons] ...

An odd underfame- looks like a former parcels van or similar to me. There was another one of these on a Grampus underframe, which Paul Wade modelled on Tonbridge West yard.

I believe 901720 started life as a runner for a Cowan Sheldon 45 ton crane.

Another pic of it here ...

http://john678.fotopic.net/p60119958.html

Got some transfers on the first Warflat today. The transfers that Appleby do do not have all the lettering that apears on these wagons unfortunatly so we are short of a bit.

By the way it is painted in Railmatch GWR Green! Looks ok to me

Brian

Appleby transfers date back to the last century IIRC. They would have been correct at the time but the lettering has multiplied in quantity, particularly in the last 7/8 years. The current style [as in my pic] is almost exclusively limited to those that have been painted more recently in the 'brighter' greens with yellow headstocks and jacks. This would explain the 'release handbrake both ends' being commonly seen in white and therefore a later addition [2000 onwards] to those wagons still carrying the more sparse yellow lettering supplied in the 1990s Appleby set.

HTH

Mark

Hi Mark

 

Just had a close look at my KFA pics and there are a couple that do look similer to this shade of green. Do you think these are still in the 1976 paint as built? Whether it's right or not I want my KFA's in a nice shade of dark green. As you say the lettering is a cream colour on these. The transfers I have from Appleby are the yellow colour so I really need a darker green.

Brian

Seems to me that the answer is the usual response ... copy one of your pics. There are a maze of variations in the paint and lettering on these and I do not yet have enough information to answer your question as to paint date. The latest and commonest variation with all yellow lettering [and more of it than previously] seems to date from 2005 [as in my pic of 95245] but if you were ask the same one on MHA Coalfish I am embarrassed to say I could tell you which had lettering that varied from the 'standard' styles.

If you can't find a pic of yours that matches the Appleby sheet then feel free to PM me a scan so that I can match it to a prototype.

Regards

Mark

Then I painted the bodies with Precision Paints MoD Green. Well that's what it said on the tin but as you can see it's more like MoD Mud. Looking at the pic of the real Warflat there are 3 different greens on the 2 vehicles and the wagon but none like the Precision Paint on the model.

Mr Daniels

Many shades of green adorned these over the years ... not just 3!

A few minutes on my spreadsheet for the KFA warflats show KFA MODA95255 and 95257 [there may be more] have/had a similar colour to the 'MOD mud' you describe applied to them in the recent past. These also have/had a mixture of white and yellow lettering. I'll dig out a pic or two if it would help.

Cheers

Mark

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They did have different numbers (though I'm afraid I dont know what they were off hand).

 

The other differences were that the sides were higher, had a square top, and iirc had more ribs.

Current version is R6216B and R6225B for the 3 pack.

Original version R6216/R6225, now very cheap if you see them ... are useful as you can use the chassis under the S Kits MH001C body to represent MHA394500-396165.

Out of interest, with the cut down MCA/MDA versions (and the similar MOA)

 

Would it be expected to see a mixture of all 3 types in a rake, or could you get away with mostly using the MOA (given that one would expect it would be to the same standard as the MBA, so you'd expect it to be pretty good)

 

Just trying to work out my requirments...

We discussed this in June 2008 on the DEMU forum Rich ...

Originally used as MCA-MDA-MDA-MDA-MCA as MCA have swing head couplers and buffers and MDA are buckeye fitted but do not have buffers. MOA are also buffer fitted but with conventional drawgear so mixed rakes are often seen on the prototype ... you'll need to get them in the correct formation on your models! :icon_biggrin:

I have seen MOAs on their own in trains without MCA/MDA in the consist, but not often.

Thanks for posting those, certainly makes up my mind which way to go for mine, will definitely be Bachmann for the MBAs

Hmm... Dapol MBA ... Bogies that do not look like the real thing, chunky hand brake wheel, disappointing underframe details, large holes for buffers, side ribs look too wide ... I think I will give up looking at this 'model' ... it's not looking good ... probably a good bet going for the Bachmann Rich!

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