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Very cool.. thanks for adding that video 😀

Hey @Silver Sidelines how is yr model of 5239 going? I think what you did was awesome - to correct these defects. It's great you could  revisit this thread.. (though not great the model was defective in the first place!)

As an avid tank engine model enthusiast I really appreciate what you showed here..

Thanks

😀

So back to the original post.

Let's face it - if you have paid for an accurate scale model of a locomotive - particularly one in preservation - where the actual locomotive can be seen - is it good enough that a purchaser has to "shave off bits", cut and refit other parts to straighten (an otherwise bent) footplate?! 

No it is NOT!

Come on Hornby - where is the re-tool to set this right? 

8 hours ago, Miss Prism said:

 

Are you sure about that?

 

 

Well no.... but thanks for that!... but hey - look at that front end of the footplate.. are they *all* like that? Wonky..and bent? Is the problem here with the Hornby 72XX model just the same as the problem the original poster flagged with the 52XX? 

17 minutes ago, 57xx said:

 

Have you actually tried looking on a site like Hattons? Russ has already posted a pic of one for you.

Well sure... R3127 and R3226 are the only ones  pictured with a raised (curved) footplate but a search of Hattons and ebay ..to take a look at the actual model draws a blank. None available. And no info on the 2013 tooling info from Hattons concerning the footplate variations either 😀

The footplates are all raised on the Hornby box picture.. but are they raised on any of the actual  models?/!!!!

9 minutes ago, Miss Prism said:

http://www.gwr.org.uk/no-heavy-tanks.html

 

Right... so I quote direct from this.. only 7219–39 has straight footplates! So where are all the Hornby versions of all.. or any?..  of the others?! DId they not do them because of the issues the original poster illustrated on the modelling of the later modified 5205's???

As far as I understand the later 72XX's were developed from the 5205 class (5255-5274)

25 were converted to the 7200 Class from the 5205's... in 1934/6.

But these later 5205's would have been rebuilt with raised footplates (earlier)..like 5239 posted about here...  (before conversion to 7200's...)

Of course 5239 wasn;t converted to a 72XX... but my point is later 5205's would have been ... and they would have had raised footplates... 

And all the 3 remaining 72XX class locomotives  (that are preserved) have raised footplates... correct?  

@gwrrob sure this looks great! But it's not a locomotive with a raised footplate> ? 😀

^ Because @Miss Prism all the actual 72XX Hornby models I can find (even though some are depicted on the box with the raised foot plate)  ..the actual (physical) model doesn't have a raised footplate! 

Ok very cool!

So what is that Hornby R reference?

Thanks! 

Ok Sorry @Miss Prism - I didn't know that the extra trailing wheels defined a "Large Prairie".. 

Comments still stand..

Why was the Hornby 52XX model R3224 such a debacle? 

And the 72XX Hornby (for that matter).. which *is* a large prairie then.. and which doesn't even bother with the raised footplate? 

^ @Silver Sidelines ???!

This is a fantastic thread and I am revisiting it as I take a look at the history of the currently preserved Large Prairie "Goliath" 5239. The current locomotive exists in it's later "raised" footplate state. But painted in it;'s earlier GWR livery (when it may well have still had it's unmodified "flat" footplate?) 

As for the model R3224 (which is now 10 years old) it is clearly as the OP'er stated been "modified" from some other  Hornby tooled model (which one??) with a raised plate - and the 42XX "body" placed and "squashed to fit" in an attempt to make the resultant model of 5239 look "correct" - and the thing it it's obviously a bend being done as it's being put together (rather than a proper retool).. It frankly looks crap.. and "fake"..yet the picture on the box doesn't! Talk about deception!

So have Hornby retooled this? or fixed the problem?

What about the Hornby 72XX model tooling?.. is that a proper depiction of the raised footplate?

Sam at Sams trains says this tooling is "plasticy".. and the model not worth the money.. so what to do to model a proper "raised footplate" Large Prairie"?

Is ony other model manufacturer modelling these Large Prairies properly?! 

Thanks!