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Both are looking excellent! Real good job!

Also! If it helps, there's a few L&Y kits currently on UK ebay... maybe you can work out a deal with the seller to ship to you? The 23 is one of them fyi

I would suspect the 1F likely has the correct wheels in terms of appearance though I cannot say for certain, I do have a 23 (hopefully) soon to come, it's just in for maintenance then I can pay for it, but I've got a pretty strong L&Y fleet regardless, do need to start work on kit building though as I've got three L&Y kits I need to assemble...

The 23 is probably the most common of the kit only L&Y locos, especially on eBay, in either built or unbuilt form, the OO works one has dropped considerably in price in the second hand market, the 27 is likely to do so awhile after release... there is the option of Dapol's pug in L&Y livery if ever you wanted to just have something to pull the brake van

Looks excellent! Any chance of other L&Y stock appearing? I've not really seen photos of Summerseat itself but I've seen things as large as the Hughes Baltic tanks at Bury Bolton Street itself + the L&Y electrics

It looks very good, nice work! I daresay much it's much better than the resin one I have which was packaged inadequately when I got it... few chips on it and most of the 3D printed parts broke off... Here's hoping I get some better luck with yours!

Excellent! Thank you!

Excellent work! Lovely locos you've got too, they suit the layout very well! Any chance of sharing the files for the print of the L&Y signal box? I'm modelling the region myself but the availability of specialised parts such as that is... not the best to say the least!

Thanks Ian... yeah I'll just give that a go since nothing I'm doing at the moment seems to be working and I cannot for the life of me figure out the problem, you're right it shouldn't be this painful to do all things considered, been spending an awful lot of time just trying to get one loop of track to work when it really shouldn't be this complex, appreciate all the help everyone

Well that creates a slight problem... the only other set I have is the one that joins up to it to create the first of the inner loops, i could try switching them around and seeing if this works, plus the only time it does not supply power is when the bottom set of points are set to curve away

Refitting those joiners means that I still lose power to the right side of the layout, I'd need a way of fixing that

both rails have insulated joiners on them, also the top points are causing no problems when opened, it's just when the bottom set is and all power on the left side of the track is lost from the top set of points around to the bottom set

Well I thought I'd fixed it, reassembled the layout minus the insulators in the bottom right and everything seemed fine until I connected the two points in the green circle in the image below, previously I had them disconnected, now I have connected them when the engines pass the top set of points on the outer loop when the bottom set of points is open I get a short circuit, and power is lost to the track following the top points despite the fact the top set is set to go straight on and the power track is after the bottom set of points, this is only happened now I've joined up that section, though I have not put insulators on it so maybe I need to?

Right well... I've made the trackplan, not gone too well as the programme I've used has decided that the pieces I've used shouldn't go together even though they have... to explain the colours, the lime green sections show where the track does connect even though the programme showed it wouldn't, the red lines are where my insulated fishplates were last, the black 'x' is the current position of my controller, the yellow circle shows an area that lacks space on the diagram for the second track but has plenty of space in person and the darker green arrows indicate the region where I lose power to the track, for reference it starts about halfway through the point on the outer loop at the back of the layout itself... hope this helps somewhat, you can see I have moved the power track forwards here too! apologies if my complete lack of model railway knowledge is showing itself, first time making a proper layout and running into many problems as I go along

The power track was moved forward as you recommended, the yellow line indicating where the insulators are was added because that area crosses over to my inside loop, i think for the sake of ease I'm just going to build up the trackplan and then we can go from there, but as to what you've said when the insulators are removed everything runs, as I've had issues with prior, the points when switched cause a short, which I'm trying to sort on top of getting everything working, I'll post the plan when it's done, hopefully that helps

Well slight issue there... it is exactly like the top diagram yet past the set of points at the top of the layout I'm not getting any power for whatever reason, my locomotives will get to those points and stop dead about halfway, is this because I've added some joiners here? (See image, joiners I've added are shown by the yellow line)

alright, perfect, so now shall I remove the joiners I added on the bottom right just before the curve or keep them there?

Alright, thanks for that, I think I'll try what Neil's suggested but that's definitely useful

The idea is to use one controller for all of the tracks, e.g a 3-4 track controller, the way i've done the insulated points at the moment is designed so that there's no chance of a short circuit as i was advised to place them like that to mitigate that problem, your diagram however doesn't seem to include the points at the back which are insulated the same as the front, so would it also be required that i change those to how the front points are on your diagram? if necessary now i'll make up a trackplan showing everything

Right... well is there a way to do that with my current setup with just the standard Hornby controller? I presume all that I need to do is add in a power clip/track and join it up?

well first off, here's where I've put the joiners, I've marked them with circles so it's clear to see where they are, hopefully I've just placed them in a way that means power can't flow as that should be an easy fix, more power connectors is another kettle of fish, hopefully this helps

Done, placed the points behind the power track, unfortunately though this seems to have changed nothing and now the opposite side of the loop is unpowered and my locomotives stop dead on the track just after the points on each crossover when trying to go around the outer loop

Alright, I'll give that a go, see if that changes anything

My bad... what I'm trying to say is that the outer loop is my current focus until I get myself a new controller, when that's done I'll wire up all the points on the inside, I'd just like the outer loop to be working, yes the points are brand new and as they would come out of their packaging, the green line on the image below shows where on my outer loop is receiving no power, the other half of the loop is fine and works as it should

Yes there is an insulated joiner there, however that bit of track is unpowered so that top left point isn't a concern at the moment, it's the outer loop where my problem is, only one side of my loop is powered whilst the other is not, for reference that image shows how it looks on the front of the layout, visible in the other image i attached