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Well my money is staying in my pocket... shame too as this had some potential, lets hope Bachmann step in and do a CIG and then shame them.

50024 Vanguard a week before the end with the oversized NSE badges on the headcode box.

Deltic's and 50'S I do remember a post card pack from Dawlish with a pic of a deltic and Vac combo at the Cross, also 1999 the fox killer train to Bournemouth on the Sunday for a march againt the then Labour party who were in town for their conference, This was worked by 50017 and D9009 from Wolverhampton to Bournemouth and back with an ECS to Weymouth. not only that they rubbed shoulders around York and Doncaster when Donny did the main overhauls on the Vacs.

I wasn't referring to any ones photo but the Computer Generated Image of the set showing the motor at the wrong end of the van coach... I expect this will be different to that in that CGI picture? unless they decided to place it there due reasons Hornby only see fit? as I said before the CGI pics that are in Hattons and the Hornby Web-sites are not those of the finished product.

I think the comment about the motor in the 'CGI pictures' show it in the passenger area is a mistake and the product will surely be in the van? I expect that was not spotted as the seating wasn't in the model when the picture taken and altered? Remember nearly all Hornby CGI shots are different from the finished product. Wait and see as per usual if not then I'll wait until they get it right....

I have a pullman set with a double loop and it's been down on the floor after serious hoovering and then some more hoovering took place ...the lights in the dark are hellfire B) It's a case of room and time but they do get an airing now and again... Laz

At an average price of £60 that will be £960 then...or call it £900 for cash???????

No 35 isn't main line but never say never... So your dropping OO for N?

I saw that part of the programme and the people they interviewed were all NIMBY's The girl tried to put the pro side over but they didn't want to listen. most of the track will be in cuttings and tunnels or sound boards to cut down on the noise...plus it's not going to be as wide as a motorway with a minimum of 8 lanes of road. Personally with the job losses in the RAF later this year and the current Tory government cuts...I said cuts.. I can't see this ever getting started, unless Labour return to 10 downing street!

Agreed the Newquay line is busy through out the summer months for the surfing and all the students go there if they can't afford to go to Ibiza! Bude and Launceston is just a proposal at this stage? I can't see it going to far though

The Alliance are just trying to drum up more trade and possiblly some shares sales, at the end of the day I don't care as long as they are out on the main line. Back to the 4mm versions, I do remember a retailer saying that a sales sheet had 50001 Deadnought listed but no livery advice. Back to 18 the pluging of the window and making into 44 preserved is the only option for that model? unless you scrap it for spares? Larry

Yes indeed I forgot that... 18 is a complete clusterfudge (Keeping it Clean), one of those grills from 33 for the other window would be good to covert to preserved 50044. Either as it was in 1994 or green from 2001 and soon this year when it's back in blue.

All except 50013 Agincourt and 50027 Lion due to the window mistakes, I wouldn't have bought 18 if I knew it had the same mistake, But it was the first of the 3 sold.

No worries Vac Basher.... Cheers for those. As for chassis Charlie, all ok for me, all mine are stored standing as they would on the line and not led down. 18,45,35,02 and 31 all OK they are the earliest. However I live in rented accommodation with little heating and they are cold, but there is no sign of body damage and the metal chassis is still shiny with none of the white crusty bit's that I have seen on those damaged ones that were posted on here before. I don't know if it's because I haven't had the bodies off much or if it's due to re-painting or if lying them down causes it? it's just down to luck. anyway 16 boxes

Vac Basher, yeah no problem I think I have those do you have the cropped ones with D421? No worries if you don't. Charlie, NSE in order of release: 50045 Achilles, was short lived in traffic the model has light grey sole bar but it's not to bad could be just faded 50002 Superb, pretty good for the last 2 years in traffic some complain of the weathering but I have seen it that bad 50027 Lion, looks to light in photos but OK in the flesh so to speak the biggest problem a window where there should be a grill! 50048 Dauntless, in original NSE and one of the Doncaster 4 paint jobs not the 9 odd in standard livery (White cab door windows), However this has many mistakes one is the grey and red base stripes are too thin and not in the correct position also the cab front windows shows that they are wrong with all that white paint. All of them have over sized numbers. But 50002 is the best of the bunch. shame that Hornby doesn't attempt this without weathering? But as you can see previously NSE Daz has managed to make good with a renumber and cleaning cloth. Larry

Thanks Vac Basher...I did a double take ....are those my pics? then I realised you said you'd post em...cheers I sold one of my 50035's this weekend due to cash shortages, So back to 16 Vacs and minus a 33118 and 2 blue grey CEP's Larry

Hornby doing a D400 you know that might cause problems for them...a refurbished Loco in a un refurbished livery! They only have one standard livery plan and that means orange stripe on all Large Logos! So for doing a black roof Large Logo the best thing is get a can of matt Black and do it yourself. I see that 50008 is this years offering and I can see that's relevant with 8 on the East Lancs back in that 1991 livery, The only main livery missing is Tops numbers and central arrows with out names (1974-78). Maybe a better early NSE and or correct size numbers for the late NSE... Some Slides I recently scanned... 50050 Fearless at Euston at 05:40 ugh 50117 a week before it's only main line outing in this livery before the silly Red Fearless at Minehead

Yeah I was on there, Dunno why the owner or Yahoo closed it? Yes the ship crest on 50031 Hood a combination of 3 that were carried and not one of any that existed. another old pic shame that site went because I lost a load of pics from a dead Hard drive, I could have got some of them back from there!

Yes the body side grill which was missed unlike the ones they added to 50018 and 50014 the un-refurbished locos...! I asked Hornby if they would make a plug like they did for the first batch of 50035 with unpainted nose handles but they declinded. I may be interested in those louvers 50033 has made in the future? My fave vacs were 50008 before the silly laira Blue just for the name and 50044, of course there were others for various reasons on the day like thrashed by a mad driver or mega loud due to blowing exhausts 50002/16 and liveries like 50008 black roof red beams and silver steps in 1985. my collection so far: 50002 NSE 50004 LL 50007 GW (W) 50007 GW 50011 LL 50015 Dutch 50018 B 50020 LL D421 B 50031 LL (LED) 50035 LL X3 FOR REPAINTS 50037 B 50045 NSE 50048 NSE OLD 50149 RF So far just a collection to be worked on. As for The Ark yes a great name and my Father served on the 4th ship/Carrier durring the 1950's early 60's so yeah one of the reasons I looked up to the class with Navy names. but the loco was Old Oaks pet and what I remember it was weak not as strong as other locos. it's personal preference I know but that loco wasn't the best for me.

So are you going to fix the obvious mistake on the 50027 model which you haven't yet for 50030? Another person who thinks 35 was the best....oh dear why?????

Any pics taken? or anyone else who went and took pics? I would like to see the latest if there are any new test shots? Fotopic is'nt allowing serches at present so I can't find any there....

Yeah point taken, unless you put another over it? but without is easier to add than take away the route badges.

Good news then? I spose I should have guessed that they would do both types of body styles (As they tend to try to cover all bases!), But it's strange that they are only doing two liveries at present? of course are they going to get the correct combinations? Blue greys then please Mr Hornby plus early NSE with route badges! Oh and that one at seen at Clapham with the Gatwick express decals.... Bigger problem is no money and not working currently... so they will have to wait until another day.

There was a retailer PDF with a picture of 3417 on a full page photo. Going on Hornby's previous trouble with type variants, Class 50 for example with 3 main body types they have made a pigs ear of window arrangements and yes the NSE is shocking.... would be nice to hear exactly what they are going to produce and correct any mistakes before it's too late. I expect to see 3417 Gordon Pettit and an SWT/NSE unit with the evidence so far?

One day may be but not with the general release moulding... Both Hornby Website photos are NOT correct, the standard blue photo is an original pre-referb full yellow ends and the NSE pic has the old Van!!!, Yet the test shot pictures at the start of this thread are that of the post 1988 referbishment with head lights in the vestuble cab doors and the refurb vans with the extra seating so that will be the late NSE and the Gordon Pettit blue... there could be SWT with orange stripe NSE and connex white and yellow and Southern greens and white I guess?