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When worried about the effect of PAT testing on our computers, we kept an eye on the tester. We eventually caused him a problem by pointing out the new SUN machines we had had separate leads, so labelling the plug was a bit pointless He stopped testing and went to ask for advice, I don't remember seeing him again Richard

Those buffer beams are very distinctive Richard

A Faulhaber driving through a worm gear in a Backwoods Miniatures Hunslet: Richard

If the Hackworth gear gets a bit out of alignment, that Wren struggles to move itself. If things are OK it manages three small vee tippers on the flat I think that equates to 1/4 of an SG wagon I didn't spot the bigger motors, I'll have another browse Richard

I would avoid those really tiny motors. I have an 009 Wren with one in the firebox: It really isn't very powerful. There are Faulhaber motors around 8mm diameter which are much more suitable Richard

I'm afraid this just isn't right, Nick. Otherwise the windows and seats wouldn't fit By the late 19th century, this was a mass production industry. Somewhere in this thread is a reference to the hundreds of identical six wheel third class carriages Wolverton built. And I mean identical ISTR when the Picnic Saloon Trust got themselves a 30' 1" underframe for their body, even though they had never been together the fixing bolt holes aligned perfectly There are some good pictures of the standardised parts the LNWR used on their site Richard

I'm not sure about this bit, a lot of sky in liquid form seems to be falling around here

I actually launched as a reminder that even the most fervent modeller has to make compromises. It's the amount of compromise you are prepared to accept that probably separates us all My compromises don't extend to pretend L&NWR carriages, it's completely OK with me if other people do Richard

Can anyone remind me of the compromises in EM and P4? I'm imagining it will be around tread width, flange size and flangeways Richard

Is this it?: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WrU5AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA95&lpg=PA95&dq=wishaws+Reciprocating+Railways&source=bl&ots=4DbNoGn2T8&sig=ACfU3U2nOHgeFGysmre0SiiEYKm2XH7tCA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwib9-mRlZnlAhUxVBUIHU24CEYQ6AEwA3oECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=wishaws Reciprocating Railways&f=false Richard

This just typical of this forum, and the OP in particular. I've been modelling in 4D for years - another backwards step for the hobby Richard (will there be another thread for those choosing the 'other' option to apologise in?)

Certainly. While Blisworth tunnel was being dug there was a tramway over the hill You can move a lot more stuff with one horse on water than on a tramroad Richard

Thank you, I wondered how they managed it! Richard

Compared to NG locos, early steam engines should have enough internal space to hide a motor somewhere - I'm assuming we are talking 4mm modelling here. 7mm and things start to look positively spacious. Or put the motor somewhere else, like Backwoods did with their 009 Fowler: The motor is in the tender with a shaft drive to the gearbox in the firebox Out of interest, how did Triang do their Rocket? Does it have strange proportions, was is it made overscale? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Triang-OO-Gauge-Stephensons-Rocket-Parts-for-Spares/293270136358 Richard

I also think it is in Red for Danger, somewhere. That's a good reason to reread it Richard

On some railways, perhaps. Like many things they made. L&NWR carriage doors are interchangeable between vehicles because Wolverton built on a production line with jigs. There must have been a time when what you are suggesting was true, this is the problem with lumping 100 years of development into a time called 'pre-grouping'. It's not like 25 years of 'Big Four' for instance Hattons seem to be moving their project along nicely Richard

Where did you find that image? That would help work out what it shows - it's a preserved line, and I think I've seen a very similar image in one of the magazines recently Richard

Strangely enough, I drop in here for interest and inspiration, and perhaps to learn something about early railways Richard

No, but it would be nice to occasionally find some early railway modelling in here. Otherwise people will start a new thread Richard

They appear to be as close to centre as possible while avoiding the coupling hook, bending the pipe or introducing more joints Richard

The one to the left looks a lot more natural https://spellerweb.net/rhindex/UKRH/SECR/LCDRcarriages.html Richard

<quick check - anything about modelling happening here yet? No. OK, go back to other threads>

I notice the early versions are in BR maroon, GWR mid Brunswick and NSE

It is an odd one, and I'm as guilty as the rest. I happily accept 009 NG railways that never were, my own NG railway modelling has slightly more constraints. Fictional light railways are sort of OK but uncomfortable. Fully freelance UK mainline railways are (for some reason) too much for me Damn, more introspection... Richard