Vinedusk

As an aside, there are people elsewhere in the world that had their homes blown up this week.

Another man was forced off a plane he was traveling in by a fighter jet.

Democracy and freedom of speech don't always work out how we expect them to.

So if the import duty and VAT are too hard to fathom, then just stop buying until the dust settles and the crap gets sorted out.

They're just pieces of plastic, Ripley.

On 10/05/2021 at 04:32, ianp said:

Are you aware that the latest catalogue from REE advertises four different versions of the 030 Bourbonnais?

Link: http://catalogues.ree-modeles.com/2021-ree-h0/#p=11

MSL have them up for preorder now.

On 04/08/2012 at 06:26, samkiller42 said:

Ohh, Don't worry, answered my own question, with 12Euros for 48h delivery, Hopefully Pierre will be around the same cost.

 

Sam

In relation to Pierre Dominique.

I have used them several times and have some comments.

• They don't clarify what is new and what is used.  Unless the 'collector' label refers to 'used' or 'pre-owned' or whatever.
• For Australia, Colisimo charges increased to 50 EU for minimum spec parcels.  This is in contrast to the DHL average of around 37 EU from the mainstream German shops.
• The often have specials.  What isn't obvious is that they also often change the 'list' price upwards on some models then apply the discount.
• Whilst there are bargains there, a lot of their stock is ridiculously overpriced.

That said, the offerings of new releases from REE, LS Models etc are sold for the msrp from those manufacturers.

If you're looking for something unusual, they cover a lot of defunct brands e.g. France Trains RMA etc.  Be prepared to pay for these.

Overall, I don't feel disappointed with any purchases.  I just find some of their sales tactics to be a bit old-world.  Until recently they had a rather confusing and outdated website.  They have upgraded to include mobile-friendly in that description.

Worth a visit, just email then if something isn't clear.

Generally, French sites don't show up in English searches. Internetial discrimination.

Here's some recent items:

Hobbytrain:

Electrotren:

plastic spring for coupler mechansim

Rivarossi:

Fleischmann:

Piko

Hobby, I think; factory feathered, set of 3.

Tillig:

I would like to see more Rivarossi and Electrotren items in Era 1 and 2.

On 11/05/2021 at 00:02, SamThomas said:

K suffex denotes close coupling & NEM pockets.

 

The wide buffer spacing was typical of models produced at the time.

 

Some locomotives also "sat" higher too.

What's the difference between K and KKK?

Here's the Brawa 47217 SSml buffer end:

Here's the Fleischmann buffer end from 580908 set:

Both cars have buffers inset from the sides of the car.

THIS did not help at all.

Does "10.000" mean 10 euros? or 10 000 euros?

If we can't concur on how to identify a decimal place, then this may be the real reason for "Vat fraud".

Some views from the trip
 

Southern Highlands of NSW through to Harden.

The XPT got me into Cootamundra at 12:45.  From memory, we would have arrived around 2:30PM in the old days.

It isn't an interesting train. UKers will know it as the HST or somesuch from the mid-1980s. No modern facilties apart from a power outlet in the sleeper cabins "shaver only". The food is scarce but OK, coffee is coffebags - ueww.  Still, it's a comfortable old thing.

The staff are all older than the trains.  NSW is apparently replacing these soon (lol) with some state-of-the-art jobbies.  The train; not the staff.  So, this may be a last look.  One can only hope...

My brother made me my first base board from two peices of masonite for my old Lima Le Capitole set and started a transformer that he never ended up finishing.  He didn't finish a lot of things. 

As I said earlier,  the last leg of a lot of journeys.  Thanks Stephen...

in 2020  I undertook an epic trip, travelling 2 hours by coach from Jondaryan Shire in SE Queensland to Brisbane.  Then, after a wait of 4 hours, a four hour coach trip to Casino in Northern New South Wales to wait for the connecting NSW Transport XPT service to Sydney, which left Casino at 19:30 and arrived in at Sydeny Central at 06:45. 

A quick hop over to Platform 2 at Sydney and onto the NSW Transport XPT to Melbourne, which left an hour later at 07:40AM

This train to Melbourne travelled through an area of Victoria, that one week later was the scene on a fatal derailment of this XPT Service. Our train itself went through a huge jolt over uneven track, so the incident later was unsurprising.  I was possibly very lucky. I arrived in Melbourne around 18:30 and overnighted at Southern Cross, before flying to Hobart the following day.  Around 33 hours by coach and rail. 2 hours by

plane.

A total distance of 2280 kilometres.

I returned home 2 weeks later, just before all the covid19 lockdowns started.  This was not the last leg.

In August 2020, my late brother was diagnosed with a tumor on his carotid artery.  With Queensland locked down, I was unable to visit him.  He recovered temporarily, but was reconfirmed in January and I was finally able to go to Queensland again and stayed there from February until he passed away in early April. After a disjointed departure and brief stay in the Entrance, I arrived in Sydney.  Here is the final leg of many journeys.

I am travelling from Sydney to Cootamundra, a trip my two brothers, sister and I have made many times as kids to visit our grandparents in Cootamundra.  Those days, we would have travelled by one  of these, now defunct services:

• Riverina Express (to Wagga)
• Melboune Daylight Express (to Melbourne)
• Southern Aurora Express (to Adelaide)

In those days we would have joined the train at Strathfied (Daylight and SA), or Liverpool for the Riverina.  Today the XPT uses the East Hills line and Liverppoland Strathfield are no longer stops.

Sydney Central Terminus - "Central"

The  Destination Board

NSW Transport XPT

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Buying and Selling models to/from Europe

So how much does this additional UK surcharging add to a EU220 purchase?

What does a 500g package cost to ship from DE to UK?

I think Australia adds 4% to values over AUD1000, but then DHL shipping adds 37-55 euros to the overall cost for a pacjakge of around 500g.

I'm now curious to see if you Brits are really any worse off than us colonials down here at the end of the earth (and global freight routes).

8 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

It is in the Modelling Zone, under the Continental & Overseas heading, and the entire discussion is extremely relevant to anyone in the UK purchasing models of European prototype from Europe, or modellers in the EU purchasing models of UK prototype from the UK. A seismic change has taken place since 1.1.21, as I'm sure you are aware. 

 

If the thread doesn't interest you, then ignore it. 

Well, based on the title, the discussion might have beeen interesting. Perhaps the title should have been “how brexit will affect trade between uk and europe”?

I would not then have bothered reading it, as I am thourougly tired of most discussions in any MRR forum being relentlessly diverted to this one issue.

I am not a UK resident, however I am interested in German Railways and Brexit has nothing to do with either me or German Railways.

REE currently have short and long fourgons in most pre-SNCF liveries. MSL and PierreDominique had them on websites.

I am confused.

What does this discussion have to do with German Railways?

Where did it all go wrong - U2

On 25/02/2021 at 12:00, Gordonwis said:

 

Hornby International does not include Fleischmann/Roco

 

The Hornby International portfolio comprises Arnold (N), Jouef, Rivarossi and Electrotren (HO). Each of the HO brands concentrates on the 'home' subject relevant to the original provenance of the company, namely Jouef (France), Rivarossi (Italy), Electrotren (Spain). In N scale, Arnold was a German company but has throughout its history (and this is continued under Hornby) produced models of all European subjects.

 

Fleischmann (family firm) ran into financial trouble and was acquired by the same financial organisation as had already rescued Roco. To avoid duplication of work, the combined company decided to concentrate one brand on each scale. Fleischmann had a (sort of) market lead in N scale so was chosen as the N specialist, with Roco the HO specialist

 

Piko is mot certainly not at the 'inexpensive' end of the market any more. A few years ago their prices jumped suddenly from 'bargain' to 'prestige'  level

 

Then there is the Märklin group, covering the brands: Märklin (HO ac system, plus Z scale) , Trix HO and Minitrix N

 Oops. Yep, you're correct.  I was asleep when I posted this.

I see that this topic has been pinned for posterity.  Ill add what i can.

Fleischmann, Roco, Electrotren and Rivarossi are all owned by Hornby International. Afaik.

Fleischmann are now exclusively N gauge and Roco are HO only. As of about 2019.

From what I can tell, price equates to detail. Brawa models are the most detailed. Piko are at the inexpensive  end of the market.

Liliput L336616.

Hello,

Your request is easier with German rolling stock.  German railways were based off the former royal houses that were removed at the end of the WWI.  The end of WWI separates German Era 1 and Era 2 rolling stock.

France had an array of private railways, not linked to the notions of State.  SNCF was created inn 1938, I think just prior to the German invasion of France.  So technically, all those private railways had always existed up until the formation of SNCF, without the separation as seen with the German railways.

So anything with markings prior to SNCF are candidates.  If you are super fussy about this (I am) then you'd need to research the specific model in relation to the dates printed in the carriage frames. But generally, anything prior to 1920 works.

From what I see, REE Models and LS Models are the only companies producing French models from this early period, but you may need to contact them if you really do need them dated early to clarify the date exactly.

The USA-marked stock is all relevant, except that to be USA marked means that they represent 1940s France.  The ones in your photos are available in pre-SNCF liveries from REE and LSM.

Check also Pierre Dominique in Paris. They have some kits that are late 1800's from defunct 1970/80s firms.  This retailer also has REE and LSM items  in stock.

Good luck.

Try this.  It's a free download from Brawa.de.

0640_0641_Dampflok_BR_AD_KWStE.pdf

40052_40053_Dampflok_Fc_KWStE.pdf

On 11/07/2020 at 04:32, Talltim said:

Artitec is a Dutch company tho. The question was were there many/any German manufacturers of model WW2 military equipment

Ok.

If there are any German manufacturers, they haven't left the same impression that Artitec has.

oops

Thanks.  After opening that new can of worms, I think that I'm trying to combine elements of two separate trains into one fantasy service.

The Chronology page provided me with the relative info.

That suggested that the routes themselves were forever changing, so trying to be prototypical about anything is still a challenge.  Thanks again.

On 21/05/2020 at 17:06, Bernard Lamb said:

A pity about mixing up classes 52 and 56. 

Unusual for either class to be used on this type of train. 

A class 38, Prussian P8, would be more likely to be used as the motive power. As is shown in the colour title shot.

An interesting piece of film none the less.

Bernard 

Quite.  I was also a bit surprised to learn that BR56 were kreigslocomotiven.

Conrad Addenuer apparently used three of the cars in whatever his tour-by-rail was.  Maerklin commemorated this by doing a set (43229) comprising: the boardroom coach; a sleeper; one of the garage coaches; a viking model of his limo; and some presierlings.  it's a very nice set.

Conrad's loco was an E19 or whatever has the 'pants crease' front end.

Liliput have done the flak wagons over the years, as well as a set of the cars in camoflouge.  Pretty sure that they did dome of the cars as individual pieces.

Somewhere, there is a list of all the cars by road number. 

10 205

10293

11 657

Apologies for the poor quality

Most German retailers will deduct the 19% automatically and do all the customs paperwork.

Some like MSL will show you the net figure; others like Kramm will offer a display with the "export" price.

Now that you are out of the EU, it may be worth investigating.

Hello,

Did you get this sorted out? I have an Fc, but its packed away in one of 15-20 boxes.

Happy to go looking for it if you still need.

The image is Brawa 40053 (3rail) and is copyrighted by Fritz Osterthun.

Great!  I'm not into vintage stuff myself, but glad to see the setup running so well.

Does this confirm that FS and CIWL cars were present on the entire route?  Were PLM cars included in the prototype?

If so, that would make my modern version much more realistic.