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22 minutes ago, royaloak said:

How can you say it is an over-reaction and then state you havent tried the trains that people are complaining about?

When i walked past one sitting at Paddington the seats in standard looked exactly the same as the units on the ECML just a different colour! But i will know the answer to that on tuesday when i do London to Bristol return. I get the feeling that there is a lot of hate for these units purely due to the fact they ousted or are in the process of ousting HSTs and Mk4 rakes.

57 minutes ago, Oldddudders said:

Despite the dire warnings in this thread that I will have back pain forever, be thrown about, and forced to drink unpalatable quasi-rosie-lee, I fully intend, on Thursday afternoon, to entrust life and limb to an IET from Padlington to Newton Abbot. Survival is likely. 

there is a lot of over reactions in this thread. I have not tried a GWR set yet but have been up and down the East Coast recently in both First and Standard on the IETs. I had no problem with the comfort in either class and was impressed with the legroom in standard, yes there was a rough ride but over the same stretches the ride was just as rough in the HSTs and Mk4 sets so more an issue with the trackwork than the trains. My only complaint really was when i was on a pair of 5 car 801 sets on a Leeds service, i'm not sure how the air con works but there was a fair bit of what sounded like exterior noise coming from the ceiling area?

Bry

On 16/10/2019 at 21:16, DavidLong said:

I'm getting rather fed up with the, rather insipid, forty shadesof grey liveries. Strong colours always have more appeal: GWR, Scotrail, Gatwick Express, refurb South Eastern but definitely not EMR!

 

David

I have to say that i really like the new EMR livery, it will look great on the Hitachi units and cascaded Turbostars and Desiros when they are delivered/ cascaded. 

I understand what you mean about the grey liveries but i think the TfW livery is here to stay along the same lines as the ScotRail livery whereas the livery will no longer change when the operator changes as its defined by The Welsh Assembly.

Probably the most striking livery around atm for me is the TransPennine Express livery, it looks great on all their new stock without the yelow ends.

Bry

On 09/04/2019 at 21:14, DIRTY DIESEL said:

There’s talk (fromTfW Llandudno Junction dept) that two HSTs power cars (one as a spare) are being looked at for short term use with a DVT, Holyhead & Chester crews to be trained on them. No idea if this is with MK3s or MK4s. 

Haha, did they tell you this on the 1st of April by any chance, never herd so much tosh.

On 27/08/2019 at 17:25, Joseph_Pestell said:

Mrs P just got this on her news feed at work. Not, of course, the first in the world.https://www.solarpowerportal.co.uk/news/first_ever_solar_powered_railway_goes_live

 

Its a trial to provide Solar Power to supply the local Signals and Lighting - nothing to do with the trains ATM. Although the guy behind the trial does seem to have great ambitions to eventually supply about 20% of the third rail power demand through Solar. I hope he is right i would make a good news story for the railway for a change.

Bry

There are none named at the moment. 

If the Scotrail PR Department have anything about them they will wait until the entire heavily delayed fleet is in service before undertaking any naming ceremonies.

I believe there are 3 training sets based at Haymarket, Dundee and Aberdeen. Still no converted Mk3s yet just de-branded ex GWR stock, although there are a couple of Power Cars in the new livery though.

Bry

Yes - See Dave-F's post here

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85326-dave-fs-photos-ongoing-more-added-11th-october/?p=2017556

 

There was also a flow down the ECML in 1992/93 taking the remaining stocks of Iron Ore from the closed Ravenscraig site to South Wales, the roundabout route being due to route restrictions.

 

Jim

Also Limestone from Thrislington-Mossend late 80s up the ECML presumably for Ravenscraig using an ML Class 37 and about 7 or 8 PTAs

Bry

90015 in Intercity Colours at Carlisle

 

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Glasgow 'Blue Train' class 303 approaching Central station.

 

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87101 Stephenson at Polmadie depot.

The 100 milepost is from Carlisle.

 

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I think 90015 looks more like its sat in Edinburgh Waverley in either the old Platform 10 or 11, to my eyes anyway.

Hi Everyone

So just as it says on the tin, I'm hoping that somebody can help me with some interior shots and layouts of the three types of Mk2 Pullman coaches ( Brake, Parlour and Kitchen ) that were used on the Manchester and later Lakeland Pullman. 

I'm mainly looking for shots when they were in Intercity Executive although any shots whatsoever are most welcome as they seem quite thin on the ground.

Thanks in Advance

Bry

And how does that stack up with a very recent JLTRT FB photo of a 47/5 which has been built by JLTRT?

because 47550 is a 47/4, i presume that is the photo that you are talking about?

Heljan have just announced a Refurbished class 50.

 

If I'm honest, I know which will be the better model...

 

It does throw a bit of a spanner though...

 

 

Couldn't they have announced a 66 instead?

Just heard this myself - rather convenient timing. Personally i'm sticking with the LLC model having seen what Heljan churn out for their price tag.

I might be missing something here but you're already on social media by being on RmWeb. As for your attack on Steve and his Little Loco Company then you are seriously out of order. This isn't a LLC project it is a project started by a good friend of mine who has commissioned LLC to progress the enterprise. Just because it started as a crowdfunding idea doesn't make it any less of a viable project just because it hasn't come from a major manufacturer first. Am I sensing a bit of elitism because it didn't originate from an idea on here? Seriously disappointed with the attacks by people on here against Steve. Instead of being critical why not put your money where your mouth is and see if you can do a better job?

Very Well said Mark, i have to admit that i had a wry giggle at people moaning about the use of Social Media whilst using hmmm Social Media  . The idea of a 7mm Class 50 is something that bubbled around on the group for some time, if i remember correctly the lad who has pushed this idea through to reality even mooted it to Heljan and was promptly shot down by being told that a 50 was a complete non-starter.

Now as a someone who is usually a solid ScotRail modeller i have verbally committed to several locos to help get the project to fruition. I think that the lad in question on Facebook and the LLC deserve far more credit than is being banded around on this forum. I personally cannot wait to get the Sound Equipped loco's fired up for the first time.

Hi, Thomas. The first 3 car set has a class 104 TSL. You can tell from the higher positioning of the windows on the body sides, and the body profile. Also the roof is a bit different from the class 108 cars.

 

Regards,

 

Rob.

Is it not the lone 107 centre car that was allocated south of the Border for a while?

Bry

For the sake of being pedantic, I know there were originally 512 Brush type 4s. But, the point I was trying to make is that the class 47 (not 57s, which wasn't the question anyway) is the only class to have had all its remaining members in the same livery at the same time.

If you mean 47s didn't carry the above liverys, your wrong 47 475 carried regional railways livery, and

47 145 carried Railfreight General when first applied. There were also several 47s that carried EWS colours the most obvious is Windor Caslte.

 

Dave

47475 didn't carry Regional Railways livery it was in the old Provincial Trans-Pennine which although similar was a different livery.

Bry

Looks like the latest Great Western 08 has been released from RVEL in Derby in the new colour scheme.

I believe its a Class 108 car i will have to dig around i may have a car number but the sets were very fluid at the time especially out of Haymarket TMD

Hi Dave

 

C8927 the Portobello DMU shot does look like a hybrid, but it's not a Class 101 on the rear. Being Scotland could it be a Class107?

Hi Daryl

Just noticed this thread, i remember these coaches well as i used to actually change trains at newcastle on journeys from Edinburgh to York to get some Class 47 haulage.

The lower bodyside colour on the Trans-Pennine liveried coaches was the same as the Intercity livery on the HSTs, if any of these coaches later in their life carried Regional Railways (RR) livery it would have been after a complete repaint. RR was a totally different livery not just a simple case or re-branding it had a different depth and height to light blue band and the lower panels were alot lighter and silvery, there were quite a few rakes of Mk2s used by scotrail from about 1992/3 onwards in this colour scheme that i have pictures of i will just need to find out which external drive they are on so i can post them.

Should be a nice simple repaint job, good luck with this project i look forward to seeing the finished article. I actually thought about doing a rake a while ago but didnt have the courage to chop up some bachy Mk2s to get the Mk2c coaches so i flogged them on eBin instead.

Kind regards

Bry

 

The only other small item which might also be ready is as below. It needs filler adding and smoothing down (the filler is at Glenn's and I won't be able to pick it up until Sunday) then it can be undercoated and painted in executive livery for the Plymouth to Aberdeen rake. Oh yes and the roof vents need sorting. Four weeks and one day - just about possible.

 

 

 

Only four Mk2e TSOs required to finish after that; apart from the Highlander charter rake, renumbering of BGs, numbering of the HSTs etc. etc.

Hi Flood

that BFK looks really good, if you dont mind me asking how many donor coaches did you need for all the pieces as id be interested in doing one of those myself, also what did you use for the compartment interior?

cheers bry

Dave the scenics on this layout are fantastic, ive just picked up on this thread and read it from the beginning and will definately be following it from now on.

bry

Hi Flood

what was used for the meshing on the deck of the fuelling point? ive been looking for something like that for use on my challenge layout.

cheers bry

Guys

if you search fotopic at the moment for 'Inverness' you will come up with a load of photos from late 86/early 87 taken by a guy called Roddy. I have no link with this site just seen the Mk3 Clansman rakes sat in Inverness station and thought of this thread.

cheers

Bry

 

 

 

(Edit : the support vehicles for the Royal Scotsman are parked on the station approach ramp - the stock is stabled behind)

 

Bruce

 

(Apologies for some repeated pics)

Great pics Bruce,

dont suppose you have any pics of the Royal Scotsman coaching stock or even the observation coach

bry

keefer thanks alot for that

bry

Scottish Modeller

love the picture of the HST powering through the cutting where Musselburgh station was sited, used to stand there with my Grandad waiting for the Kings Cross sleeper.

cheers bry