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Some people use a thin layer of latex caulk for fixing down track.

No experience myself as I've only ever done temporary(ish) layouts.

17 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

They work perfectly when modified as I described on all my CCU fitted stock.

 

I had issues with Kadees on the AS Deltic CCU components when fitted but after modding they work great, I think the AS CCU component has some stiction in some units and it causes issues.

I stand corrected then.

At any rate I've gone and ordered Dapol Easi-Shunts in all three lengths to test on the CCU fitted TT stock I have.

My comment on Kadees had less to do with the pivot, and more to do with the Kadee design simply not being rigid enough when coupled to really work right with CCMs.

Are Dapol Easi-Shunts more rigid when coupled than Kadee/Microtrains couplings (not pivots the coupling itself)?

Having read the various replies, I think might buy a pack of Dapol couplings and see how they work (though I'm still not expecting much for my purposes).

Also planning to order a pair of the Roco/Fleischmann couplings and give them a go.

Chances are I'll just stick with the Tillig type for economy regardless, seeing as it works ok for me and 90% of the stock out there (other than old BTTB and Rokal) already has some variant fitted.

10 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said:

It is.

Interesting pricing then, as the Roco ones seem to be almost twice as much as the Fleichmann ones.

Edit: Never mind, the Roco ones seem to be sold in pairs and the Fleichmann ones singly.

11 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

I wonder if they will work as well as the Hornby supplied couplings as regards the close coupling mechanism?

From experience using NEM HO Kadee's in close coupling mechs, no.

Close coupling mechanisms need coupling rigidity to work right that Kadee-style couplings don't have.

Best to stick with the Hornby supplied Tillig-style one or look at Roco's (which as best as I can tell is the same as Fleischmann's N gauge Profi one) if you want close coupling.

On 18/11/2022 at 10:45, NCB said:

I've some of that track. What I've never worked out is how the power leads are supposed to be connected.

As Tillig bedding track uses Kato UniJoiners you can also use Kato 24-818.

This is the route I've gone for my Tillig track so I have the right plug at the other end for a Kato controller I had around.

2 hours ago, Taigatrommel said:

I posted about this one some time ago, but I figured it belongs in this thread as it's Hornby.

 

https://uk.arnoldmodel.com/products/arnold-tt-1120-drg-2-axle-ferryboat-refrigerated-wagon-gfhks-english-dutch-meat-company-livery-period-ii-hn9722

 

A 1930s build ferry wagon is currently available.  I don't know if they were used in Britain post-WW2, but if they were, two packs are currently on offer at Modellbahn Union.

 

https://www.modellbahnunion.com/TT-gauge.htm?shop=modellbahn-union-en&a=catalog&p=99557&filter=k2517g4370p6571

 

Have purchased and received them in various DRG and DB liveries from elsewhere (modellbahnshop-lippe) and they are quite nice models.

3 hours ago, eldomtom2 said:

It looks like Hornby are getting what they want - the problem is, I'm not sure a new scale on its own will be enough to save them. They have failed to use TT as a chance to reconceptualiise their ideas of what a train set is, for instance - they are just doing the exact same thing they do in OO, just in a different scale.

Peco has wagons in the works and I don't see them dropping out on that, so Hornby still isn't alone in that department.

Towards the end of the video (at 0:26) the brake van, 08, and Mk1 are all completely on straight track, and the gap at the rear is still quite large.

Happened across this video showing the class 08 running around with a Mk1 and some wagons.

The coupling arrangements seem a bit odd.

There is a large gap between the rear of the 08 and the Mk1, however the front end seems to be close coupled to the brake van.

5 hours ago, Jeff Smith said:

Some info about ordering from the US.

 

I haven't received my TT:120 Club pack yet.

 

Tried ordering 'The Easterner' set.  All good until I tried using my UK NatWest card.  It didn't seem to like my billing postal code (zip code), tried several variations, still wouldn't go through.  Called Hornby to be advised that there must be a problem with the billing address.  I asked if I could order over the phone and was told yes but I wouldn't get my TT Club discount!

 

So tried my US debit card and it went straight through......Invoice as below including FREE SHIPPING!

 

TT1002M
The Easterner Train Set

Quantity: 1

£162.08
(Including £0.00 VAT)

Subtotal£162.08

Shipping£0.00

VAT£0.00

Discount (Hornby TT Club)-£24.31

Pre-order Total£137.77

Interesting...

It's now showing free postage to the US for me even for just one wagon.

Have canceled two of my preorders and redone them with the free postage.

1 hour ago, M4tt80 said:

After much pondering I ventured to my local model shop today to take a look at the Peco track. 
Apparently I had just missed the local Hornby rep who I understand had just left with a flea in his ear about Hornby stomping on the retailers. 
Aside from that we discussed that Heljan had pulled out and today so has Gaugemaster which means the only player left making RTR at this time is Hornby. Aside from the 2 sets, nothing else has been physically produced yet and according to the rep it’s not set in stone? 
 

I left feeling slightly apprehensive and considered delaying making a decision until a) I’ve seen the products in the flesh at a show and b) wait to see what surprises Bachmann may unveil in their next quarterly announcement. Given their track record I wouldn’t be surprised if they unveiled something like they did with those 009 fairlies. 
 

If another manufacturer producing RTR doesn’t jump on board I’m going to hold fire for now. 

Peco announced (presumably RTR) wagons some time ago (no specifics besides 3d renders of a 7-plank) so there is still another manufacturer (albeit not for locos).

I'm a bit confused about what the rep told you, as Hornby already has shown fully decorated samples of some of the wagons so those are presumably in production/about to be.

Hornby has also shown undecorated samples of the class 08 and other wagons so those would seem unlikely to be canceled.

11 minutes ago, Hroth said:

 

An 08 set might be called "Local Goods".

And a revived "Freightliner" set with a Class 66* and a miscellaneous selection of wagons might be a possibility, ideal for Xmas 2023?

 

* Cheapest Big Diesel they've announced so far...

TTA wagons should also be released by then if they wanted to stick to something era approriate for a 66.

1 hour ago, Jeff Smith said:

So what other train sets could have been offered to represent a more modern scene!  I'm thinking something goods for shunting, presumably featuring an 08?

With Hornby's penchant for mixing stock eras in OO goods train sets, I'm a bit suprised there's no set coming in the spring with the BR blue 08 and a few wagons to provide a TT equivalent to say the "Network Traveller" or  old "Goods Master" sets.

33 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Has anyone received their (free) TT-members pack yet?

My membership order (placed the day after the announcement) is still "processing".

36 minutes ago, Allegheny1600 said:

Hi there,

During the course of this thread we have learned that there is an Australian importer who will be distributing the TT range to Australian dealers - quite unlike how Hornby are doing it in the UK (so far).

Surely, there must be an American importer Stateside? Reynaulds, perhaps?

Otherwise, how did they distribute their own US outline H0 stuff by Rivarrossi?

Fingers crossed for you anyway,

John

Hornby distributes their own stuff I think as they have a US division but what British stuff they import is rather limited (no TT stuff whatsoever on the US site as of now).

I suspect Australia is the only exception to direct sale as it's the only country excluded from the TT club.

For sets and locos I'm willing to eat the postage cost. For individual coaches and wagons I'll just wait until 3-4 are available at a time (and hope they don't sell out on pre-order).

I did go ahead and preorder the MDV wagon, as I'm ordering a long enough rake of them that I'm over the amount for free postage.

Really wish Hornby would modify their international shipping with this line only being sold direct.

As someone stateside, I can't justify preordering most of the coaches and wagons I'm interested in when I would potentially end up paying 30 quid postage per coach/wagon.

4 minutes ago, britishcolumbian said:

I think that that's actually not their own type, but Fleischmann's. Either way, it's different.

Pretty sure it is the Fleichmann Profi type now that you mention it.

TT version is branded as Roco even for seprate sale though.

28 minutes ago, philsandy said:

I know it has been mentioned on here but can't find it now (78 pages!) but what type of couplings are Hornby using on TT120 range? What other manufacturers use the same couplings, and how do they fit to the locos/rolling stock (NEM pocket?), ie. can they we swapped for something less obtrusive?

Couplings are the (more or less) standard continental type that orginated with Tillig and seems to be used by more manufacturers than I'm familiar with.

The only two brands I've come across that don't come with some version of the coupling are Roco (own type) and Piko (version of the old BTTB coupling).

All Hornby models (that don't appear to be OO photoshops) appear to be fitted with NEM 358 pockets with close coupling mechanisms (as are most continental models).

As NEM 358 is also the N gauge standard you could also use couplings marketed for N gauge. Actually N uses NEM 355 pockets, although it seems couplings made for either pocket will still fit the other.

If you want the close coupling mechanisms to work properly you'll need to stick with a rigid coupling made for them (only other type I'm aware of made for TT is Roco's).

2 hours ago, Jeff Smith said:

You're right but we're getting what they decided, I guess the 08 will have to do for now, until  the Pannier comes along.  To me it is surprising that it (the 08) isn't available in green and hasn't been included in a goods train set for shunting......

All the liveries announced for the 08 appear to be air braked.

Guessing that's why theres no BR green or black liveries announced (even though they could have done an air braked preserved one in one of those liveries).

10 hours ago, Hroth said:

 

"snap track" still has fishplates to maintain electrical continuity, so there's no escape.

 

Not all.

Life-Like HO/N Power-Loc (which I think Hornby put in a couple sets in the early 2000s), and MTH 3-Rail O Realtrax and Scaletrax are some examples without.

2 hours ago, Michanglais said:

 

Thanks for your response. That would be excellent! I'm kinda still hoping for confirmation from Hornby tho because I'm guessing they must be VAT registered in France because of their European models/brands - the French post office is notorious at slapping French VAT on even if it has already been paid (for instance, Hatton's are French VAT registered and so 'collect' VAT for the French tax authorities at the time of purchase but try explaining that to the French post office who are the VAT 'collectors' for the govt).

 

All that being said, there's time yet. I don't intend to place any orders (at the risk of losing out) until I've read reviews and seen production images. One thing I am concerned about is how they're going to deal with their couplings. The images so far seem to suggest some models with body-mounted couplings and others with bogie-mounted. I'm very much used to buffer-to-buffer coupling and wouldn't want to go back to trainset gaps in-between coaches. There are solutions out there but it'd be nice if Hornby made the effort to go full NEM...

 

Sorry, that turned into a very mixed post!

 

 

I suspect the images of stock with non-NEM bogie mounted couplings are just placeholders photoshopped from the OO equivalent.

47 minutes ago, jjb1970 said:

I think the main (hopefully constructive) criticism I would offer Hornby is that they should consider developing a snap together ballasted track system like Kato Unitrak. I know many others have made the same point and noted that Tillig pay to use the Kato connector. I know many serious model enthusiasts dismiss such track systems but it is great for newcomers and those nearer the trainset than high fidelity layout part of the hobby. And I have seen some seriously good layouts in Japan using Unitrak. I have used it in N to gauge and think it is a brilliant system.

I agree. I myself am skipping Hornby's track offerings for Tillig's as I love HO and N Unitrack and want something similar in TT.

Hornby could alternatively do a track system that does both like Atlas' HO True Track, which is Atlas' regular code 83 track in a removable ballast base with connectors.

I personally had little interest in the Peco or Heljan announcements (hadn't noticed the Gaugemaster one) UNTIL Hornby made theirs.

Hornby jumping in head first with the amount of product they've announced is 90% of why I'm willing to give 1:120 TT a go.

Nothing about the previous announcements made me have much confidence in British 1:120 growing much after introduction.

Of couse Hornby could have massively miscalculated things and the product line quitely gets dropped in a year or so with most things unreleased.......

1 hour ago, spamcan61 said:

I saw a response from Hornby on FB stating they knew and would be fixed in production.

Good, will probably go ahead and preorder then.