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By the way is it just me or are the modern WAB green and yellow boxes REALLY ugly ? the older trains I think look better the newer JB trains are nicer than the WAB as well :-(

Not unless you have any pics of the interior of Wengen Station, I think I have all the details I need for the exterior, the only bit I'm not sure of on the outside is how they get from the station building to the roof garden . There's a door from the first floor of the goods building onto the flat roof above the info board, but at the rear of the flat roof on the station side a section of the roof has a glass inset railing and various plants, I'm not sure if they just climb out the window on that side or if they have turned one of the windows there into a door I think I'll use a lot of artistic licence for my little layout If I create a sort of version of Allmend but shorten the platform a lot and extend the double track down further into the avalanche hoarding that should work it's not as if anyone ever walks that far down the platform there if they can help it , likewise a bit of licence for Wengwald (possibly the smallest station in Switzerland ?) Though at least there it's just a halt and only uses one of the modern trains doors The modern trains are I think about 42 M long or 84 in a double unit the older trains with a wagon and two cars came to about 30 M What was platform 4 at Wengen (now 3) is about 100m long which would be 1150mm in H0 scale which is doable for me the biggest pain is all the turnouts needed to duplicate Wengen it adds roughly an extra 1.5 m to the platform lengths simply because as setup track 2 is straight through, now there's a thought if I made track 2 and 3 the same length I'd get a better looking station in a shorter length, so have track 2 arrive as the straight through turnout but track 3 leave as the straight through option and track 2 feed into track 3 rather than vice versa

Well just the station to start off with LOL Once I have done the design I'll post an exploded pdf so you will be able to see exactly whats involved but the idea will be to bring the costs down a bit as I won't be using full sheets of thin plywood so better to make several kits to use up all the material and split the base costs

Allmend tiny station building with massive platforms, this is the other problem about modelling the WAB not only is the track just 800mm gauge with a rack rail but you have little stations with huge platforms, Wengernalp station serves the hotel, a total of 3 buildings and a shed but the platform is 181 meters long, Allmend is only really there to let people get to the top of the Lauberhorn Slalom course and to take skiers back down the mountain when there's not enough snow to ski back to the village but again platforms well over 100M long LOL Don't mind me I'm just fed up because I found a better pic online and realise I've made a mistake with my 3d model. I 'd been looking everywhere for a pic of the interior of the station ticket office at Wengen as I was sure I'd seen one, there is a full 360 one as well, it's just that google has labeled it as the post office ! Unfortunately it shows the floor beams in glorious detail, enough for me to instantly go, oh ... So I'm going to simplify the roof detail of the model, because there's no 3d printer on the market right now that can resolve the level of detail I can show, instead I'm going to lazer cut the tiles in strips and stick them on the top, the bright side of this is that it makes the models significantly smaller When I've finished would anyone be interested in essentially a kit of parts to build Wengen station, including the station building, the goods transfer shed and the smaller shed on the other side of the tracks Plus the canopy ? It's likely to be a mix of 3d printed resin parts and laser cut details in wood and paper/card

Yup there's also windows in the first and second floor, windows and doors to go in various openings, internal walls a roof over the canopy frame and the ground floor extension, snow rails round the edge of the roof plus two chimneys and various metalwork including a huge skylight over the ground floor extension.... Like I said work in progress ;-) I have no plans or elevations so I'm working off a map to get the rough foot print plus overhead pics and some hi resolution photographs from a number of sources including my memory, I don't think I'm doing too badly

Progress on my Wengen Station 3d model So I've changed the canopy framework to allow for the fact that they got rid of one track at Wengen and then moved track two further from the station building that meant they needed to extend the canopy by about 2M (guess) I've made a start on the station building, I think I might need to increase the height of the first floor by a scale 200mm or so but I have at least finished the masonry for the ground floor I have included a closeup to show a bit of the detail, each bit of roof panel works out at 10 to 20 MB ! not sure why I decided to include the tile clips but there you go LOL

JB hasn't needed skiers for some time if ever really, not so the WAB, on the plus side it will mean the the Chinese tourists no longer use the grass by the church in Lauterbrunnen for a toilet ... I kid you not :-( ... as they will all arrive by coach at the car park in Grund, The skiers are not overly worried they think it will mean less day trippers on the trains during the winter so more space for them, they may well be right. I'm not sure but there used to be workshops for the Jungfraubahn at eigergletscher and I think the new construction may be replacing those so it's possible that this is what the doors are for or it may well be a covered platform to keep the tourists out of the worst of the weather, they will still be using the snowblower for some time I expect

I'm not quite sure what happens on the other side, you have gravel bins at the far end of the track on the upper level that drop into trucks on the lower road to be used for gritting in the winter, theres also a connection for fuel oil at the same end of the building on that side, Graf delivers this around the village in a small truck with a tanker on the back and it's their name on the Tanker that's loaded on the train. You can just make out the Silver offloading pipe on the wall of the wood clad building about a foot from the corner. At the Lauterbrunnen end of the structure there are stairs down from platform level, a train height roller door and to the right of that a double door person height I'm going to be honest here and say that on my layout I intend to keep my snowblower in there and a little workshop that you will be able to see through the windows, mainly because I'm an engineer and I want a little workshop on the layout , but also because once upon a time the WAB used to keep the snowplough in Wengen during the winter

Thanks looks like only the wagons get pushed in, makes sense and makes it easier to unload with that big overhead crane I can see through the doors One reason I want to do an HOm version is because I also plan to do a snowblower with as many working bits as I can, now the WAB versions are OK but the Jungfraubahn has the Ferrari of snowblowers I've only just started the model for this though David

Hi I've just recently decided to get back into Model Railways having not done anything since I was a child ... 40+ years ago and having been a frequent visitor to Wengen for all of my 50+ years I thought I'd loosely base it on the WAB, loosely because I can't afford to go to HOe but can probably just about afford to modify HOm. Also I don't have the space to be able to recreate the 175m long platform 2 at Wengen :-( I can however answer one question I saw asked earlier by eastwestdivide . The offset doors at the ends of the coaches allowed the guard to move between them to collect tickets usually accompanied by the request "Alles billet a bitte" Quite impressive as there is just a tiny step on the outside by each door, the guard would exit the carriage close and lock one door behind him with one foot on each step before unlocking the next door. Not easy especially if the train was packed and you need to get peoples attention to move away from the door so you could get in, one of the old guards actually had a club foot with a big built up boot to compensate, imagine in the middle of winter in -10C doing that with ice on the steps and a blizzard ! The modern trains are corridor connected so no issues there but the doors on the end allow access out not just in tunnels but also in winter you can have very little space either side of the train when the snowblower has cut the route so access to front or rear away from the station might need this. Anyway I made a start on my station, some of you might recognize this, though it is not finished yet I think it should be clear where I'm going ;-) One thing that has me confused, Wengen uses roller shutter doors for its goods area yet it has a catenary system, anyone know how that works ? I've not seen any close up pics to be able to work it out.