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1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

Or weeks, Peter?

 

I've still got to build the proper bridge in the background as well.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Tony I would be very interested if you put a short film or article together on how you assemble and fit the rodding. It does look really good.

Regards

2 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

A weekend not attending a show! Now, that's a novelty.

 

Anyway, I've put some of the time towards doing more of the LB point rodding................

 

 

The MSE/Comet/Wizard cast and etched components are absolutely first rate, and far more realistic than the over-scale Wills plastic stuff, However, there's always a down-side. Nothing wrong with the materials, but the time factor. This little lot to the left has taken me over 10 hours to make (solder together), paint, install and weather. Just look at the length of the gap still to be filled, between that pair of vans and adjacent to the repeating signal in the distance. Still, well worth doing  (I now notice it's not there!)

 

 

Moving a bit further south, and following the progress of BONGRACE on the Up 'Yorkshire Pullman', there's also a bit more rodding appeared to the right (only three and a half hours this morning).

 

Just to left of the Down slow is a short run of rodding already made. How much further to go, I wonder? All the way up to the barrow crossing, and down further south towards Marsh Bridge. 

 

A bit at a time, I think. 

 

 

Looking very good Tony just a few months to go I would estimate.

Regards

Peter

4 minutes ago, ScRSG said:

 

Tony et al, 

Was it not the case that on these original DJH chassis the thickness of the frames was enough to give a bearing surface and what appears to be bearings on the drawing were, in fact,  just spacing washers to set the wheels out from the frames to avoid any shorts? The frames will be drilled 1/8th for the axles. So, theoretically, no top hat bearings are required.

Chas

Hi Chas

That is what is implied in the kit I have but the fit of the axle within the chassis is in my view not what I would expect. There is a small amount of lateral movement in the planes as against a nice rotational fit, as previously mentioned I could be totally wrong so my apologies if that is the case. I am very conscious that getting the chassis correct and alignment within limits is the best scenario for a smooth running model.

Regards

Peter

1 hour ago, Tony Wright said:

I'll send you the bearings Peter, though I still need your address. I have it somewhere, but where?

 

As with all these top hat bearings, it's unlikely (very!) unlikely that they'll drop into the holes in the frames first time. Those holes have to be broached/reamed - not drilled! The best practice is to do that BEFORE the frames are assembled, but it can be done afterwards. Most current bearings supplied (the ones I'll be sending, and the ones usually supplied in current kits) need a fair bit of 'meat' taking out of the frame holes, because the bearings' wall thickness is substantial. The original one eighth Romford top hat bearing had a much thinner wall size (I have a precious few left, though I think you can still get them), and needed less taking out from the frames. Markits' code for them is MRAXFB32 - 1/8" (3.7o/d x 2mm). I buy them by the hundreds! 

 

Regards,

 

Tony.

Sent you a pm, I will also email you Tony.

Regards

Peter

28 minutes ago, Theakerr said:

Re the A2, there were no top hat bearings in my A2 kit and even if there had been the holes were too small to accept either type I had in my stock.  My drawing also shows the same collection of washers.  My A2 chassis had been assembled but it was a bit of a mess with a couple of holes reamed out to deal with an out of square situation.  In the end I completely dismantled the chassis, rebuilt it and had a friend effectively line bore new holes that would take top had bushings.  I keep saying I will post a list of the things I found when I put the complete kit together.  Will try to get round to it later.   N.B.  Please bear in mind that my kit was a rather old kit so things may have changed.  

Thank you for the reply.  Tony is kindly forwarding some top hat bearings and I have the workshop equipment to make them fit nicely so hopefully all will be well. I will post progress updates and hopefully will not have to dismantle as you have done.

Good luck and keep us updated.

Regards

Peter

On 16/03/2019 at 19:00, 9793 said:

A recent commission. Accurascale HUO Hoppers. A further 15 to go!!!

 

They are very good Tom extremely realistic

Regards

Peter

22 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said:

Not suggesting you could not see them Peter. Apologies for that. In the older kits I can't remember if the Top Hats were in the little wheel bag or somewhere else. I suspect Tony has a huge supply of spares if you need the correct type?

Phil 

Hello Phil

No apologies needed, I have been that busy that a lot of things seem to be missing until I discover them later  Anyway I will ring DJH and get some sent down.

Thank you for the re assuring response I just wanted to check I was not going totally mad.

Regards 

Peter

Thanks Mallard

I will go through the box again and see what I can discover as I am obviously not identifying it, a Specsavers visit due before long I feel.

Regards

Peter

All

I was expecting something top hat shaped but nothing in box and as image below only washers and spacers ?

All

Made a bit of progress last night on the A2 but there are no top hat bearings shown or in the box ! Do I need to supply separately as the axles do not feel a good fit or is that how it is meant to be when packing washers and wheel spacers are added ?

54 minutes ago, LMS29 said:

I am starting to build 'coach conversions' using etched sides on donor bodies as discussed by Mallard60022 and would like to read the TW article mentioned which dates back to 2006.  I have considered/tried the obvious sources with no success, so would welcome any help that readers could offer to find a copy. Thanks.

 

Tom

Hello Tom

I would also be interested in this article. 

Regards

Peter

And me at present

8 hours ago, Ben Alder said:

I have been using LaCo plumbers flux for the last few years successfully both with brass and white metal. I have several irons - all Antex but the majority of my work is done with a TC 25watt one, using the same bit for 100degree for white metal, 145 for brass and rosin cored for wiring. I keep it very clean, with a swarf cleaner and wash after use, and I have just replaced the tip - it broke off - after about twenty five years use. Fortunately I had another couple of similar vintage tips in stock, so it should keep me going for some time.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Laco-Soldering-Flux-Paste-60g-125g-475g-Regular-Soldering-Flux/

Hi Richard

In light of Tony's remarks about not getting messages can you check that you received one from me regarding an ennui then I know all is working.

Regards

Peter

9 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

It would seem that some messages don't get through, Peter.

 

You've got my email, haven't you?

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Hello Tony

I have and I will forward an email that you will receive in the morning as I am on the verge of retiring for the day.

Look forward to conversing tomorrow.

Regards

Peter

29 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

Peter,

 

There are two A2s, a rebuilt WC and a DUKE OF GLOUCESTER - all with full wheelsets, but no motors (apart from one of the A2s, which has an Anchorage D13 - no difference in price). 

Good evening Tony 

I have sent you a personal message on this matter.

Regards

Peter

I am interested Tony , how many DJH Kits are there at £120 ?

Regards

Peter

8 hours ago, Ben Alder said:

I had a bash at the Parkside  LMS cattle wagon when it came out - they did the early version, which with a bit of work can be made into a slightly later one, and with a lot more work can be a passable late version, which is the most useful for BR modellers, although the earlier ones did hang about in small numbers until quite late on. Here are a couple of shots - first the kit as it came, then the early one with an altered door and slightly different strapping. Then the later type.

 

 

 

 

A WIP of the change .

 

 

I covered it in a bit more depth in my workbench thread - page 5 here - https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/69241-ben-alders-workbench/&page=

Hi Richard

Good to see the variations of these wagons and thanks for the info the other day.

Regards

Peter

Our two entries are of Finchley Road & Frognal station on the Hampstead Junction Railway (North London Railway) in 1959. This was a time when the NLR was run-down after the war and the models aim to reflect the neglect of the period. Because the track layout on our model does not conform precisely with the layout at Finchley Road & Frognal we have revived the old name 'Finchley Road (St John's Wood)' that the station bore when first constructed in 1860. It was renamed Finchley Road & Frognal in 1880.

 

All models are 4mm to 1 foot scale and based on photographs sourced from various books and publications, Holborn Library and, in the case of aerial photographs, from English Heritage. Archive mapping came from Ordnance Survey.

 

The signal box is a standard LNWR Type 4 box. The upper parts are from a Churchward Models etched brass kit. However, I didn't like the cast resin base that came with the kit and replaced it with one scratch-built from plasticard. A Springside Models interior detailing kit and some fire buckets finish the whole thing off.

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May I ask what is the small cabin on the end for ? If it is what I think it is where are the soil pipes ?

Regards

Peter

Best wishes to Mo hope she gets well soon.

Regards

Peter

All

It has come to my attention that on the 6th Feb 2019 it will be the six year anniversary of Tony Wrights first post on here after his darker days and hopefully this thread will run for another six. 

May I also thank Andy York for first engaging and then posting as Tony's mouthpiece on here, he has and will continue to be another stalwart of the model railway scene.

Thank you both for providing all the articles, discussions and wonderful images over the years.

Great work both of you.

Regards

Peter

And now for something completely different:

 

 

A derelict building for CF, next to Gasworks Tunnel. More details in the 2mm section, quite fun making this up.

 

Tim

That is modelling of the highest order.

Regards

Peter

Retrochoir I like that    It always amazes me with all the adaptations of words that people use on here for humorous or serious comment. This should be called Wright's Wordsmiths.

Regards

Peter

More likely the retroquire, I'd suggest. Or maybe the crypt.

 

G

Having photographed a layout today, I appear to have said two things wrong in my earlier piece. One, it is based on an actual prototype (Trowbridge), and, two, it isn't all one man's work. Friends have built one or two locos and items of stock. That said, most of the layout is the work of the owner. 

 

The station is on one side of the room space, and the other side represents a section of the GWR 'out in the country'. It's beautifully done. 

 

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It's very much representative of what I was trying to get over in my piece. Personal modelling based on observation of the prototype. Many of the locos and items of rolling stock are modified RTR, but they've all been personalised by the owner. 

 

Finally, I've received my copy of The Clearing House today. It's the journal of the BRMA, and in it is a report of the Convention it was my privilege to attend as a guest speaker, in Sydney last (English) autumn. My thanks to the Association for sending it, but I'm reported to have said in one of my talks that the signals on Little Bytham don't work as yet. Since one of the authors has been to see LB, and operated the signals (which all do work, thanks to Mick Nicholson, Graham Nicholas and Tony Gee), I was a bit puzzled. s that cutting view good.

Isn't that cutting view excellent, I wonder what size that layout is.

Regards

Peter

Dear RBAGE,

 

As one of those who used the word 'hierarchy' in recent posts, may I comment please?

 

You seem to imply that I could be seen as 'fuelling' elitist tendencies in the hobby. Is it 'elitist' to encourage folk to make things for themselves? Or to assist them in their model-making? Or to strive for greater accuracy?

 

Today four chaps came from the Ely club to visit and run LB. Though of 'mature' years, in some ways they're beginners at model-making. Would anyone who harbours 'elitist' thoughts offer to help them on a one-to-one basis with their model-making? The stipend? A donation to CRUK. We had a splendid day, they certainly did not feel looked down upon and are as keen as mustard to learn. Though, at the moment, they're more reliant on RTR, they really want to do things for themselves. 

 

I think there is a hierarchy in any creative hobby. Whether it's social or political, I'm not sure, but it's been my privilege to work with and for many of those who, on merit, are towards the 'top' end. These are top model-makers (in some cases the best) and there are also respected historians/authors. These are the men (and women) who've driven the hobby forward, who care about passing on skills and ensuring information is correct. It would be disingenuous of me to even consider that I might have a 'positive' effect in even a tiny way, compared with those of high stature. 

 

Yet, when one tries to put a reasoned point of view across, instead of an equally-reasoned counter-response (which I would deeply respect), some of the responses must have seen as being potentially libelous. Can you see those who encourage model-making, offer assistance and strive for greater accuracy writing in such a vituperative way? Which 'side' of the debate should be careful in how they express their points of view I wonder? 

 

I honestly believe this thread is very representative of the hobby in general. Of course, by its very nature, it'll be frequented more by those who make things rather than those who simply do nothing, or, if they do anything it's just to moan. I've learned a vast amount from it over the last few years, and I know many others have. It's encouraged others not to just be happy with what they can achieve by just opening a box, and, as I've said many times there is great merit in detailing/improving/renaming/renumbering/weathering an RTR item, as long as the person does it for themselves.

 

I have to say what's happened of late has really opened my (perhaps naive) eyes. It really does make me think 'what's the point?' Why should anyone seek to help others, encourage model-making, insist on accuracy and good practice, if what comes back from some quarters is vitriolic? Who needs this? I have dozens of kits to build, loads of pictures to take and (prototype) books to write. 

 

I wonder what some of the sternest critics (certainly not just of me) have contributed to the general hobby? I really do.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

I have contributed nothing but look forward to your advice and encouragement as I expect do many others and would be very disheartened and sad if we did not have you about to add your wisdom and learned thoughts on the hobby Tony, along with the advice and encouragement of others on here.

Far too many to mention, but that is what makes this the best thread on here.