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11 hours ago, RJS1977 said:
Personally I would say that the VoR, the Talyllyn and the Ffestiniog all have the ability to run locomotives tha are original to the the line
The NYMR does have one such engine, 45428, which in BR days was shedded at Neville Hill and is known to have worked over the Malton to Whitby line. Another NYMR affiliated loco, 2253, is also a former Neville Hill engine and also worked over the Moors, and 62005 worked the Whitby Moors Railtour while still in BR capital stock.
There are a few other preserved locos which are known to have worked over the line: NER long boiler 0-6-0 No.1275, Class 40 No. D345, and Class 03 No. D2066 which worked the very last revenue earning BR train over what is now the NYMR - a Malton to New Bridge quarry pick up goods.
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It's worth pointing out that preserved lines - I'm not keen on the word 'heritage' because as the great Gwyn Williams said it doesn't really mean anything - which have got into serious bother because of high handed and/or incompetent management can be turned around. Here's an example from today, on one of my current local lines: https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/23932186.llangollen-railway-attraction-year-prize/
It's also worth noting that this is not the NYMR's first brush with 'professional' management. It happened before, in the days of Horner and Pearce (when I was volunteering), and such a mess did they make of it that the first AGM report issued by the new regime after they were ousted was entitled 'A Blueprint For Survival.' Among their other plans for a more 'professional' railway were the installation of lifting barriers at Grosmont and worst of all a planned redesign of Pickering station, commissioned from the BR(NE) architecture department, which among other things would have seen the main entrance sheeted over with plate glass and one of the large cast iron window frames in the outer walls removed to make way for a new main entrance door. Meanwhile the station cafes were running out of sausage rolls by mid-morning because the 'professionals' were too busy being 'professional' elsewhere.
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53 minutes ago, RichardT said:
Hmm. I’m afraid that from this, and your previous post gleefully linking to the suspiciously-timed TripAdvisor slagging off, I suspect that you are not a disinterested party.
I too am a life member and that is as far as it goes. I live in North Wales, haven't been near the NYMR in five years, haven't volunteered there since the early 90s when I moved first to Scotland and then to China and then to Kent, know only one member of the Levisham Station Group and then only dimly and don't even like him very much, have never volunteered at Levisham, and am about as socially conservative as Roy Jenkins. And there was nothing 'gleeful' about my link to that review. I am extremely upset about what has happened on a line I have always loved and while I am aware that there are faults on both sides the tone of the leaks from the NYMR has been absurd. A vandalised leaflet? Shocked, yes shocked am I. Shocked, I say. These events are sadly typical of a rash of similar instances at many lines over recent years - West Somerset, East Lancs, Teifi Valley, Strathspey, Peak Rail, Lynton & Barnstaple, the list goes on and on - and each time volunteers and volunteer groups find themselves on the losing side of unnecessarily escalated rows with management types who are full of the letter of 'professionalism' and empty of its spirit.
I'd also point out that the outgoing NYMR GM - sorry, CEO - was not noted for his habit of remaining aloof. To his credit he was and is a great exponent of management by walking around so if we're doing 'faults on both sides' it is a little unfair to suggest that he did not know what was going on - vandalised leaflet and all - until it was too late to do anything but go nuclear.
But other than that your analysis of me and my views is spot on. Grats.
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It is worth pointing out that the Levisham station group did not merely sell tickets and crisps. They also maintained the station and its environs including trackside drainage and fencing, rebuilt the station ticket office and waiting room from a condition in which it was structurally unsound to one in which it won a HRA award, reconstucted the former Scarborough Gallows Close goods yard weighbridge building, restored a rake of vintage wagons (which has now been towed to Pickering and dumped there by the management), was instrumental in the restoration of NER TO No.945Y, and much more. They weren't just a lot of gold braid wallahs.
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Purple 4MT tank, perhaps? Repainted for a Cadbury's advert, then livery slightly modified for the Santas. Will be reverting to black at the ad agency's expense in the new year.
Photo by Heidi Mowforth.
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On 01/11/2023 at 15:29, KeithMacdonald said:
Curiously enough the Hornby model is closer to the TARDIS prop used during most of the Tom Baker era than it is to the Met original.
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On 15/11/2023 at 07:38, Annie said:
I picked up one of those for cheap and liberated the mech out of it with the intention of using it to repower the remains of a down on its luck Leeds Model Co six coupled loco. I consider it no crime at all to saw up something so hideous.
Speaking of which, whereas it has now been superseded by a Hall, the older Lionel Harry Potter battery sets contained a coarse scale O gauge V2.
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Glorious. One wonders whether a OO replica could be constructed using a couple of old Mainline N2 bodies...
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16 minutes ago, Michael Hodgson said:
Unglamourous includes cleaning the station bogs. It's a job that's got to be done.
Jobs which reportedly are not now being done since the big I Ams evicted the station's dedicated volunteers.
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1 minute ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said:
love the brown livery on that first Jinty, reminds me of Triang’s railway children set, though I much prefer what you’ve done in terms of a brown Jinty.
It's actually maroon, but the lighting makes it look darker. It was done for me by a friend in (IIRC) 1987 using a Hornby Railway Children Jinty which had been bought very cheaply because one tank had a huge crack in it; that was the year in which Butterley painted 47357 in BR lined maroon and this was done in anticipation; I will say that mine entered service first!
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On 18/07/2023 at 23:50, Respite said:
I agree, Asbestos and Faraday seem very bright. I recall Faraday before it was scrapped and it was a darker green.
Faraday - or at least an ex-CEGB HL with that name - survives and is currently at Preston. http://ukprsl.uk/final-results.asp?action=display&Id=3089
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This is rather interesting. It looks as though it was built using 1950s windscreen wiper parts and the like.
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As something of an afficionado of the late GP Keen's K Lines layout I find myself hankering after a version in his house livery. Bit niche though.
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21 minutes ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said:
I was thinking of that, if you can find one for a decent price then I’d go for it, static display piece? Free rolling loco to be pushed by another powered item? I think not!
Unbuilt ones seem to be going for around £25 on ebay; double that for a well built one.
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11 minutes ago, Hacksworth_Sidings said:
Come to think of it… One of the guys at my local club has a Hiawatha, he doesn’t model continental stuff and scrapped it for spares but I’m pretty sure he still has the body… 4-8-4 Hiawatha anyone?
I wonder if it would be possible to use the Tri-ang 4-6-2 chassis to motorise the old Kitmaster New York Central Hudson?
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That's the one. Am now starting to wonder if it actually is the one made by NB Collin (although if it is then the cab glazing has fallen out).
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11 hours ago, Ben B said:
Have you got some more shots of the boxcab diesel please, showing the cab fronts? Very interesting conversion!
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A few oldies from my collection. Jinty conversions, an early diesel on a Hornby Ringfield tender chassis, and the humble Tri-ang clockwork tank
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12 hours ago, 33C said:
More!
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If this helps, a couple of shots of my 4' x 18" N gauge roundy roundy. I only realised that the battlements didn't all face the same way after I'd glued it in place. I blame overenthusiastic Victorian restorers.
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15 hours ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:
Triang, Triang-Hornby, Hornby has consistently lagged behind the competition ever since the days of Hornby-Dublo deceased Trix deceased AirfixGMR deceased Mainline deceased Replica all buteceased Lima deceased .
See a pattern there? The lag is in a range of three to ten years is my estimation. Some threats are acted on much faster than others, probably based on retailer feedback indicating what the competition are shifting...
The pattern has changed in recent years though. Nowadays Hornby observes what other companies announce and then announces the same thing, either an inferior new tooling or a reintroduced inferior old one, and rushes it to market before the rival firm's due date. The Austerity tank, the Class 71, the King, the 14XX, the Adams Radial, the rebuilt Scot, the Standard 4MT 4-6-0, the 59 and 66, the 20, the Terrier, 'Lion,' and so on. Typically the spoiler model is released for a couple of years in all the most popular liveries and is then never seen again.
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The Daily Mail is on the case, complete with a photo of the wrong station and a caption describing Levisham station as a 'depot.' Strewth.
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I don't like to think ill of a railway which I have loved since I was a very small child, but the word which keeps coming to mind is 'Washford.'
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3 minutes ago, 6990WitherslackHall said:
The only turntable I'm aware of is the one at Pickering.
So the question is where is the other one?
A wagon turntable had been acquired for Levisham station yard. Anyway I was wondering where all the station group's wagons had gone and why there wasn't a Levisham update in the latest Moors Line.
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Five volunteers SUSPENDED from NYMR
in Preservation
Posted · Edited by papagolfjuliet
Sorry but that's not correct. The GER box van, BR Shocvan and shock open, LNER CCT, BR Palvans and 12t van, BR lowmac, LNER 13t opens and LMS 3 plank are definitely the property of the Farwath Rolling Stock Group and the VEA is the property of the station group. They are listed as such on the stock list which is available on the NYMR website. Only the NER box van is not owned by the station group or its affiliate. If the NYMR is now saying that the confiscated (one word for it) wagons are not the property of those groups then it may wish to update its own public documentation. Oops.
Follow the 'Rolling Stock' link on this page for the NYMR's official stock list with details of ownership: https://www.nymr.co.uk/carriages