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A BPRS signal motor.. Watch out this  is a big one, ex Cambridge 110v DC and capable of dynamic indication. The 10v DC version is not as long. Each one comes with it's own hernia.

This signal had one 10v BPRS motor and one Westinghouse motor.

My Westinghouse motor in action along with a MET V GRS solenoid disc...

I have a BPRS solenoid lower quadrant shunt and a Westinghouse Solenoid disc i can upload short movies of if there is interest.

Unfortunately i took one look at what was needed to get photo's of the three types of signal motors i have and just gave up for today. I'll have help over the weekend to tidy up a bit to get clearer pictures. My apologies, a bit under the weather here.

Because I'm inherently a lazy sod, I have decided to go for power operated points and signals on the new layout. What did the real motors look like in the early 1960s ?

Here's an oldie.. I'll take some phots of signal motors tomorrow in daylight..

Thanks for those links, now I realise that platform flower beds are Rail built.

Not rail built. LNER Concrete Articles Catalogue Edging, Garden, light (not when you've shifted 50 of them) Part No661/7/43 (95lbs) with Corner Block 88/7/40 (85lbs)

It does have me baffled at the moment but this photo is out there..

http://www.rcts.org.uk/features/mysteryphotos/show.htm?img=Y-97-03&serial=1

I got a rather nice book on King's Lynn docks for Christmas. I was rather surprised to see a picture of containers being unloaded from a ship onto freightliner flats. Not something i would normally associate with King's Lynn.

I renewed the point between the Bedford - Bletchley and Flyover line a few weeks back. The trapping arrangements changed slightly coming off the flyover.

I travelled on the line before it closed and I'm pretty sure it was all double track from Oxford to Cambridge. Wikipaedia confirms this for Oxford to Bletchley "During 1982 the entire length of the Bletchley-Oxford section, which was still double-tracked throughout.

The section from Bedford to Sandy was always single.

At long last i have found the Towcester Train Register Book

Ouch..

JF

Not my idea a hasten to add. I'm simply testing afterwards.

Bloomin' cheek - everybody knows that proper signals go down for 'off' (just like the LNWR ).

It looks like i have the privilege of 'fixing' some of these signals in the very near future.. Simply chop off the bit of post with the offending lower quadrant arm and plonk an LED searchlight on top. Simples. Photo on Monday if all goes to plan.

They operate on a polarised circuit and have normal and reverse detection contacts. That's close enough for me to simulate the real thing. I use them to simulate real point motors. Hence my comment about the contacts being a little underrated. They are operating 50 volt BR930 series relays. I've not had any problems though.

http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Ely_Dock_Junction_L_Frame.html

and a rather superb bit on the current arrangements at LLS..

http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Liverpool_Lime_Street.html

I have around 40 Fulgurex point motors in use. I have not had any problems at all with them despite their use in a rather harsh environment. The contacts are a little underrated for what i do with them but again no problems encountered. I can't comment on their ability to drive anything mechaincally though as none of mine are attached to anything.

It was from the 'new' box. I don't have it now unfortunately. I can remember you could see the ghost of the turntable where it had been scraped off the diagram. I will ask the chap i sold it to if he still has it.

A dyed in the wool LNER (GE) enthusiast is impressed too! I look forward to seeing the changes at Watford

Me too. I think the standard of modelling is incredible. Although of patch for me i do have considerable interest in the location. As a teenager i bought the box diagram via Collectors Corner. It had been rather brutally cut in half and me and a school friend carried the two pieces from Euston to King's Cross. It just fitted in the brakevan of a 312.

Hello

 

I'm sure that there will not be too much rivalry on this layout. Our layout is set in 1977/78 so falls firmly into the 'what if' category of layout. We will be modelling the signal box but the signalling will be very much rationalized due to the closure of two of the tracks which led into and out of the station. like the track plan will be simplified as so much was in the 70s in an effort to keep the costs down. I'm sorry Chris but i have no idea what the layout of the box was in the earlier,( and real), era so we shall just have to mjake ours up though I suspect there will be a fair few white levers. We could have got rid of the box as well I suppose but it looks to good and unusual in design not to feature it. I think the plan is that I build the box and John will do the station building which will be in low relief to save space. Another new development is that the layout will be DCC which will be a first for us both and the signals will probably be from the nice Mr Dapol having seen them on a friends layout recently at Alsager and being impressed by them. Something less to build as well. No problem with your hijack, this is what modelling is all about, just sorry I couldn't be of more help. Best of luck to your father in law's layout. Just one more thing to add is that we have nearly finished the baseboards and hope to start track-laying over festive holiday period. Also thanks to the folks who sent us the photos; much appreciated.

 

Cheers

 

George . .

Somewhere lurking in the depths of my collection is one of the last train registers from Towcester box. I've been looking for it half-heartedly for awhile. When it surfaces i'll post a few pages on here.

 

I would hat to be COSSing so many blue hats

I totally agree. Must have been like herding cats.

You can always tell when there is someone different on the other end. I turned up at one box (many years ago) and very unofficially started working it. Within minutes the phone rang and the enquiry was made.. ''Is Richard working the box?'' The signalman replied that i was. Then came '' Does he want to come round here and work this one, i've hurt my back''

can just see the mystery "signal" or whatever it actually is, it isnt lit or showing any display it seems.

 

I've just remembered that a few nights back I was dozing and suddenly the thought came into my head that the 'mystery lights/signal' may have been a warning that a barrow crossing was in use? I have no idea from what dark and gloomy place that little gem was retrieved. Sad isn't it.

P @ 36E

Maybe nothing is showing in the stencil indicators because the signal at the end of the platform is on?

The box local instructions are worthy of investigation. I did have them away when i stripped the box but i haven't found all the pages yet. There is certainly an instruction that freights are not allowed to pass unless instructed by control.

The overlays depict the new turnouts laid in for the resignalling works and the extended passing loop. The track circuits should have been cut through the point detection though i'm not sure if the east one was. This means if the not yet commissioned point blades do open up for any (and most unlikely) reason it doesn't go unnoticed..

This was the last box diagram displayed in the box. I do have an office copy of a later one that was never issued.

Please excuse my rather crude attempt at joining three photo's together.

I have 4S80 in signalbox registers signalled as 3-2-5 as you would expect but on a few occasions 4-3-2-5 was used. This meant it was longer than usual though i can't find a document at the moment to confirm the lengths.

I always use the latter. The silent 'H'..

They are in use in my signalling simulation of Ely. We get to signal some of the same trains today on the instruments that would have passed Derby Road. 4S80 is a regular, Felixstowe - Coatbridge..

I have most of Trimley box tucked away to do something with one day.

I had four keys with the instruments. I don't know what happened to the rest..