SteveCornford

Looking very good Darius!

Adding the lighting conduits to the roof help brings it alive.

Steve

Hi Keith & James,

Have a look at http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/BRBDocuments/CS/Book_No_230_EK_web.pdf

There might just be enough info, see page 19 onwards.

Steve

ps you can still get transfers for 6S & 6L units from DC kits I believe

For what it is worth, Peters Spares have an image of the Modelmaster pannier tank lining sheet, and although it is out of stock, you can take the option "email me etc..." , that is if the sheet would be useful.

https://www.petersspares.com/p/modelmaster-98051-london-transport-lining-only-oo-gauge-transfers

At least we can see what you would get!

Steve

Railtec do some LT pannier numbers

https://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=8033

with a picture

ALso Modelmaster

https://modelmaster.uk/4mm-locomotive-lining-packs/17126-4r9805-london-transport-yellow-black-yellow-ready-made-up-lining-panels-for-ex-british-railways-57xx-class-pannier-tank.html?search_query=london+transport&results=44

and

https://modelmaster.uk/4mm-locomotive-lining-packs/17095-4m4086-yellow-black-yellow-lining-for-sr-london-transport-locos.html?search_query=london+transport&results=44

and

https://modelmaster.uk/4mm-london-underground-decals-transfers/1506-lt9813-underground-fleet-names-gold-two-pairs.html?search_query=london+underground&results=46

no illustrations so I dont know how good they are.

Steve

Will you be supplying P4 wheelsets as an option?

Artist material shops usually sell spare spray nozzles, well mine does.

Sorry, i got my A2 and K2 bogies transposed.

A2 was the 7' 10" motor bogie, drawing page 215 April 2010 Underground News (L.U.R.S).

K2 was the 7' 3" trailer bogie, drawing page 216 April 2010 Underground News (L.U.R.S).

Both used on the G stock motor cars ordered from Gloucester Railway Carriage & Wagon Co. in february 1924, which later became Q23 stock

7' 10" in 4mm scale is 31.33mm, which rounded to nearest 0.25mm would be 31.25mm.

So my question to Stephen is:- WHat size Black Beetle bogie do we need?

30.25mm or 31.25mm?

Steve

The kits have now appeared on https://www.eastleighmodelrail.co.uk/london-underground-q23-driving-motor

I note the instructions state a 30.25mm wheelbase black beetle bogie is required but surely the A2 bogies were 7 foot 3 ins wheelbase which is 29mm in 4mm scale?

The K2 bodies were 7 foot 10 ins asymmetric wheelbase.

Steve

Surely the 6-CIT/PAN/PUL sets used SR electric Express gangways rather than "british", also Spencer-Moulton buffers throughout.

In the past Silver Fox produced some overlays for these unit but I am not sure if they are still available or available just for the trailers.

Worsley works also supply etches for these units.  It all depends on how accurate you want to make them.

Drawings are available from Mike King.

It looks to me as though you have correctly produced the asymmetric pivots of the Q38 bodies.

Hi Timber, might I suggest

A)  you remove the protective brown paper label from the wash n cure turntable so that more UV gets reflected up under your print when curing.

B) sit your print on an upturned glass tumbler on the turntable to make best use of the UV

C) resin print a section of s scale timber base from templot, cure, then measure the sleeper length,  and the length of the base over the two outermost timbers & compare with the templot designed template in order to measure resin shrinkage accurately

Cheers Steve

Also suggest you think of joining "London Underground Railway Society" LURS for short.

Here is a lin to their website https://www.lurs.org.uk/index.htm

If you then click on the [Underground News] button you will get a page containing buttons for extractcs of differernt past years of their monthly magazine.  You have to scroll down a bit to see the buttons.

Choose [2010], then scroll down til you see April, then select "District Electric Trains Part 14"

This will open a PDF copy of part 14 of the article by Piers Connor

Scroll down to page 5 0f 9 (actually page 211 of the printed magazine) to see a drawing of the A2 type of bogie.

Page 6 of 9 has a K2 bogie drawing.

I predict you will then spend some time perusuing the other parts of the magazine article.

Hope this helps, Steve

ps Is the 4-COR somewhere on your schedule?

On the side with the single window next to the oval window, the single window is too deep, I thought he had corrected this on the 6-PUL pullman composite etch after I sent him my Mike King 6-CIT,PAN,PUL drawings, but easily corrected with a spare bit of etch.

Have you made any progress with the your original 6-PUL set of etches.

regards Steve

what coaching stock is this required for?

Would these Railtec be any good for you?

Railtec code 3014  They are in reverse so stick to inside of windows

Or there is also Replica railways sheets 41056 and 41057, scroll down this page

41056 is available in reverse for inside the window too

I am not experienced in O gauge, but you could try Roxey mouldings see:-

8ft 9in wheelbase motor bogie

or google for WAYOH bogies?

The problem is as stated in my original post. That is the instructions included with the etch are for your 4/6 wheel underframes with fold-up W-irons, and as you are well aware this etch does not have fold-up W-irons!

Therefore I was asking if anyone had the correct instructions or could help me.

I am making the assumption that the solebar overlays fold onto the combined solebar/W-iron piece, but then how does that locate onto the baseplate.  Apart from the buffer beams which fold down from the baseplate, is there any other part of the baseplate that folds in order to locate the solebars the correct distance apart, or do the solebars just butt up to the baseplate?

Just wondered is anyone has constructed one of these underframes and could make some helpful suggestions.

This is etch BUW3097/4.  Does anyone have any instructions or help on constructing this etch please?

It came with instructions for 4 and 6 wheel stock with fold up W irons, but this etch does not have fold-up W irons.

POW SIDES have a Weedon & Sons of GORING, and quite a few BRIGHTON branded wagon sides.

I believe the 2015 is the latest version, it has the correct address

Hi Wayne,

Any chance of a photo of one of the switch ends of the double slip?

Steve

Here is a picture of the bits you are missing:-

http://www.jimmcgeown.com/FAQ Answers pages/FAQ Answer 15 Luxury Tools.html

This post gives an example (albeit of a 2mm scale version) of fixing a wire to the cast crossing:-

example assembly

On mine I soldered the wire underneath at the wide end of the cast crossing having first lightly abraded it.

Then perform a trial fit of the crossing and the rails that meet it to ensure that it is not standing proud.  If it is you will probably have to file the bottom of your soldered joint so that it fits down onto the track base ok.

Then temporarily tape the wire to the timbers to keep it pout of the way. Once assembled you can bend the wire down at right angles if you wish to feed it down through the base board.

I think you will struggle to solder a wire to the cast crossing once it has been fixed in place, unless you cut away the tags/sprues on the track base.

Steve

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the info, also for the tip about the 9ft motor bogies.

WIll be interesting to see how they run in service.

Regards Steve

Hi Pete,

What drawings are you using for the 4-BUF?

Whose hadrail knobs and what size wire are you using for the distinctive motor coach handrails?

Steve