tythatguy1312

if you want a somewhat more feasible design that doesn't need complicated flexible steam pipes running through 2 of the bogies then fear not, for I have a Thompson Mallet too, which is also overpowered but it's less of a mechanical nightmare

following that I went on a bit of a custom loco binge and I may have gotten a bit carried away

so I remember this being inspired by a TOMY Murdoch model but I sketched up how a BR Standard 9f would look like as an 0-10-0, just for funsies. Admittedly this is a... very basic edit but still

23 minutes ago, Corbs said:

Not related to any recent post but..... Streamlined Hudson Garratt? Yes please!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WcatOMaVW0

this would've probably worked very well for the heaviest passenger trains, imagine if the PRR built that instead of the T1

15 minutes ago, AlfaZagato said:

@tythatguy1312 Well-tank Q1?

I was thinking more "Maunsell style E2" but yeah that works too

I've personally sometimes wondered what a Southern 0-6-0t would look like, considering the closest we actually got is a... controversial machine. 

alright so since we are seemingly almost completely out of ideas, and although I lack the photoshop skills, 3d modelling experience, a model, any physical modelling skills and really everything except the idea

Class 07 with a central cab

1 minute ago, Signal Box Cat said:

What about this one? Another German KDL Class 46, never to be materialised.... Source unknown unfortunately.

 

The Signal Box Cat

seems like that cab might be rather unpleasantly hot

2 hours ago, DenysW said:

Would use of the Gölsdorf axle have converted some of this thread's more powerful creations from imaginary to buildable? It does seem to have made a reality of the Wurttemberg K class  (DRG 59) of compound 2-12-0 bankers, but not to have been enough to make them a good choice on the flat. Were they just too foreign/metric for us gallant Brits? Sadly there is a model of the K class available (in DRG livery), so no kit-bashing is required.

 

They also seem to have signalled the end of new articulated designs in Germany.

it wasn't, they did try to build a Mallet during World War 2, apparently a 2-6-8-0. Unfortunately a bomb hit it during construction, ending both it and the program

I was just looking for pictures of an LMS Coronation in the US and I found, what I would describe, as the weirdest fictional design since Henry The Green Engine as built

40 minutes ago, Zomboid said:

I suppose it depends how far off the island the trains run, but wasn't it pretty normal to have loco changes at or near to the boundaries? Barrow would be an obvious place to change engines, or it could be the Furness/ LMS loco that does the whole trip to/ from Carnforth. The same would go for any through trains to London/ Manchester/ Scotland.

 

Of course we're talking about the Isle of Sodor here, so it's clearly rule 1, but I'm sticking to my big tank engine railway theory.

depending on the Material, it's either to Barrow, Manchester or beyond. all that's stated in the original story is that it goes "to other places far away" which is... annoyingly vague.

7 hours ago, Zomboid said:

I'm just thinking of these big tank engines. Maybe if there are heavy freight flows something like a 2-8-4T would be needed, and you'd probably need a relatively large wheeled 4-6-4T for the passenger trains and the flying kipper, getting up to 70mph or so...

The Flying Kipper is said to go well beyond NWR Metals in other materials, so yeah a fast goods loco with a tender would be necessary, maybe something like a 4-6-0. That is assuming the NWR couldn't just... swap locomotives at Vicarstown or Barrow but still.

11 minutes ago, JayWizzleHizzle said:

For my own AU of the Island of Sodor, I'd created a 4-6-0 as a mixed-traffic class. Although all 7 were named after Sudrian castles, they were legally classified as the Landmarks, since the GWR held the rights to "Castle Class." They were built at Crewe by the LMS, as it was too big of a job for the Crovan's Gate workshops, for the sake of tackling Sodor's many hills. Ulfstead Castle was the first to be named, followed by Thorkell, Suddery, Arlesdale, Tidmouth, Hawin Doorey, and Callan Castle.

 

Based on the 4-cylindered GWR Kings, it has Gresley A1 outside cylinders, valve gear, and dome, a slightly modified Black 5 cab, and a B17 tender. Although depicted here in blue, I later revised my coloring scheme that all mixed-traffic engines would be red with black lining.

Honestly Sodor always seemed like a place that would breed... unique locomotives due to the fact that, as the island is hilly and somewhat sparsely populated, conditions unmatched by the UK

3 minutes ago, Murican said:

Here are my ideas for the BR Classification of the various big steamers I've discussed so far:

 

GWR Cathedral Class 4-8-0: 9P
Southern "Merchant Navy" Class 4-8-2: 9P8F
LNER Gresley I1 Class 4-8-2: 10P9F
LNER Peppercorn I2 Class 4-8-2: 9P8F
LMS 10MT "Conqueror" Class 4-8-4: 9P10F

this isn't a fictional loco but I may as well put in my two cents and call the LMS Garratt a 9F

Ok can we get back on track (pun intended) because I have yet another debatably uninformed idea. What if Gresley had rebuilt the Ivatt Atlantics to their logical peak?

Ok how did we go from "GWR King class Pacific" to "what caused the economic downfall of the UK after the Second World War"

8 hours ago, rockershovel said:

by the 1930s, steam traction had reached the limits of its useful development in the U.K.

I've always suspected this to be a rather unique point. The limits of the UK's infrastructure limited train lengths for both freight and passenger trains, thus creating demand only for locomotives that could pull those trains, as the UK has always been... let's just say reluctant to upgrade infrastructure. So, by all accounts, by 1935 the UK had reached its practical limit in terms of locomotive size, thus leaving room only to improve designs of those sizes.

45 minutes ago, Zomboid said:

The CP Jubilee holds the Canadian speed record for steam at 117mph, which isn't that far short of Mallard. They haven't chased speed in the same way as the Europeans have, but it wasn't beaten by anything in Canada until the 1970s.

 

So that principle on the flat bit of the GWML would allow some good timings to be made.

I must admit what I had in mind was a method to allow the Kings to traverse the whole London-Penzance Mainline, rather than simply gunning it between London & Bristol. I also personally believe a 4-4-4 would have far insufficient adhesion for the heavy trains of the GWR, thus making a 4-6-2 or a 4-6-0 preferable for the work at hand.

I've been kicking this idea around in my head for a while now but has anyone thought of a GWR King's boiler, firebox & Cylinders on the wheels and frames of The Great Bear? Seems like a good way to solve the King's high axle loading to me.