Schubert

Thanks Andy,

I'll give it a whirl

Al

Ok,

I'm out of ideas, does anyone know how to upload video to this here forum, and what format does it need to be in?

cheers

Al

Ladies and Gentlemen

May I present his eminence, Lord Lunester...

Quite true, the windows did keep falling out, so they changed the design.

I had to have one for two reasons,: 1 they are butt ugly, so they appeal to me, 2 the factory where they were built was in Srtockton, about 3 miles from where I live ( I used to drive past it every day on my way to work)

Pictures of moving loco's will be posted some time this weekend, (after I've edit out jeffs fingers, clockwork keys and trained rats in special harnesses!)

Just had an interesting trip to a secret location...

You've heard of the Large Hadron Collider under the Swiss Alps, I've been to visit the secret marshalling yards under Lune Fell!

I feel honoured to be guest of honour at the inaugural train on KL, I might have to put my best bib and tucker on for the occasion!

Do I need to bring a symbolic golden track pin?

Just a quick one here Jeff, but how about this. Road overbridge (girder bridge to span all three tracks) which turns after crossing and runs past teh branch line before dropping off the edge of the board. On the other side, it remains on a hill with a turning down towards the station and yard, possibly continuing past it.

 

What about flipping this idea end to end?

If you had the bridge at the right hand end of the station, with the road sloping down from right to left into the goods yard it would follow the (theoretical) natural slope of the land down to the valley floor. It would also give you room to get the road bridge in.

Al

Edit:

As its the S&C you need to be prepared for snow, what about a couple of snow plows sat at the ends of opposing sidings?

Hi Jeff,

Cor Blimey, I don't read the forum for a few weeks and next thing the track is down and there are hills appearing!

Progress indeed.

I was looking attend pics where the plaster had 'settled' (subsided?) between the formers, have you tried going old school and using chicken wire to create the sub structure?

Al

Lurking Lunester !

The Midland ones had them to match the American Pullmans! The idea was to allow more light into the interior (Real Clerestories are the top stories on the naves of Churches, again to get more light into the nave (as usually as soon as side naves (The real names has gone!) are added you loose all the light, so you extented the nave upwards one storey and put the windows up there and bobs your uncle, the centre nave is less dark)

 

They were also used to add ventilation space. They went out of favour as they made the vehicle weak in collisions, and probably cost more to make.

 

Andy G

Correct Andy, there is also a story that it was to provide extra room to allow gentlemen to wear their top hats whilst walking down the carriage.

Al

Schubert's random fact no. 357

Does anyone know why clerestory coaches had clerestories?

Al

Hi Jeff, managed to lay myself low with a virus for the last week, (went to bed on Monday after getting in from work, and didn't get up again for three days!) on the plus side it has given me time to catch up on progress on Looney Kerbside, ( your tunnel mouth is looking great). I've also had a chance to checkout Bacup, Greenfield, and Eastwood Town as well. Some really great modelling there, you are in excellent company.I've even taken the plunge and attacked one of my Bachmann Class 25's with a hammer and chisel!

I'll post pic's when I get a chance.

In the meantime, have a great Christmas Jeff, and best wishes to all the other 'Lunesters' as well.

Al

Hi Jeff,

Not been on here for while. Can't believe there have been over 2000 posts to date!

You are making fair progress indeed, last time I was round you were just about to start laying track.

Are you sure you want to start making the tunnel mouth? I know what you're like, once you get it in place you won't be able to resist starting on the hillside around it.

Hope you're up and firing on all cylinders again soon.

Al

Hi Jeff, progress indeed. Your track work is looking good. I'll be out of a job soon if you continue mastering things at this rate!

Re DC vs DCC - I'm sure we can temporarily set it up so that you can run dc for visiting loco's. Were Co-Bo's ever seen on the S&C? ;-)

Al

Looking good Jeff. I assume you've sorted out the issues with the slips?

Hi Jeff,

Sorry to spoil your enthusiasm but an A4 would definitely be out of place on the branch! The Wensleydale branch running to Hawes was mainly worked by G5's (0-4-4 tanks) I'm afraid. The only time anything bigger went that far up the branch was on rail tours. Redmire was the limit for the larger stuff when they worked the limestone trains back to Teesside. If you want a G5 it will have to be a kit build as there are none rtr about.

Al

 

 

No, in this case it isn't Lego, but Tamyia. The big issue that I found was that because I am using Torti, but they needed to move turnouts horizontally- rather than vertical orientation. So, I had to translate the movement 90%, and I needed an adjustable linkage. The Tamyia parts work well for it. Mine came through Britannia in Vancouver, but I know they are available worldwide. (some of mine came from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yodobashi_Camera )

 

http://www.borgfeldt.ca/product.htm?Product=799-70143&Source=Category&Category=799_70000_EDUCATIONAL

 

Is the items that I am using. That should give a # for UK purchase, if you are seeking to do similar

 

James

Thanks James I'll check them out.

Al

Another good visit to KL on Friday (those viaducts are looking good). Plenty of discussions and 'what if's. As usual I left the Physics man with another shopping list, I should be on commission!

Looks like this afternoon may be spent in the workshop, it's too wet and windy for rc helicopters. :-(

Peach James - is that Lego 'technic' you are using for your point linkages? If so are to using Lego bits for the pivots, or have you made your own out of brass or similar?

Al

OK, I've posted this here as there was a danger an S&C discussion re. turntables and stockades (!!!) could have taken over Gordon's Eastwood Town thread!

 

My thanks to Ian Wales, Ian (Olddudders) and Mike for explaining this to me. Mike - I've copied your comments to here for ease of future reference!

 

 

Sorry Gordon but this has to de dealt with because we have a Settle & Carlisle fan who clearly hasn't read 'Red For Danger' and who also hasn't got a copy of Houghton and Foster http://www.transport...FOSTER_W_Hubert because the former book mentions the story of the Hawes Jcn turntable and the latter illustrates it albeit with the title 'Garsdale Junction'.

 

The turntable at Hawes Jcn was allegedly apt to suffer from the effects of the strong Pennine winds and although Rolt attributes the provision of a stockade to an engine being caught on the table and spinning round & round unaided I bet the real reason for the sleeper stockade was simply to make the job a lot easier in bad weather. I believe the turntable was taken out of use in the 1950s - it, or rather the stockade, is visible in post war pictures and remnants of the stockade could still be seen in the 1960s. And the turntable is also included on the 40ft plan I have of Hawes Junction.

 

Cheers,

 

Jeff

I think an engine spinning round and round is a bit far fetched. For this to happen the wind would need to be blowing on one end of the table only! If the wind was strong enough to move the table/loco combo then surely it would 'weathercock' into the wind and not go any further round.

Apologies for knocking a great S&C legend !

 

 

Jeff, The long side is approx 24' in length. The depth of the house is over 18' and the pitch of the roof is quite high so I am hoping there must be between 10-12' of width at a workable baseboard height. Should I go 0 gauge? Only joking. The pub is just across the road BTW.

And with the Wensleydale only 10 mins away it Sounds like the perfect home !

 

Maybe sometime in the near future I'll get to fixing the track down!

 

Jeff.

Is this a subtle hint by any chance?

I am playing with 7 1/4 gauge this weekend, but should be able to 'pop round for a brew' next week!

Al

Hi Jeff,

Here's my thoughts/practices:

My layout:

Cork to baseboard - Evostick

Track to cork - double sided Sellotape (means no track pins or holes in sleepers and it's clean!

Ballast -thinned PVA

Club layout (heartburn junction):

Cork to baseboard - Evostick

Track to cork - track pins only

Ballast - French polish

The French polish sets the ballast nicely (it leaves a glossy finish but weathering fixes this) the benefit is that if you want to lift the track you can use methylated spirit to soften the ballast, and then the track comes up with a wallpaper scraper. Assuming you removed the track pins first of course!

Al

Looks excellent Jeff, the colours look spot on.

Never doubt your own abilities, just because you haven't tried it before doesn't mean you can't do it (except walking on water or flying by flapping your arms!)...

looking forward to seeing it later in the week when we talk trackwork!

Al

Cool, I'll drop you a text.

Al

 

 

Hmm... now where can I fit an aqueduct. Open plan baseboard, it could be at a lower level, maybe with canal boats on it... umm. Lol!

 

I will need your expertise with the track positioning - and, no doubt, lots of other things. Have we ever found a time when myriads of ideas didn't come up!!

 

How about one evening next week?

 

Jeff

Next week sounds good, currently I'm up to my ear 'oles in control panels for heartburn junction and when not busy with that I'm working on a model aircraft I've got on another forum!

When it comes to the wiring up I'm quite happy to wield a soldering iron and assist.

Al

Hi Jeff, you're making great progress with the viaducts, I really like the main line one with the tapered pillars.

Hmm, isn't this about the time where I come over and offer a coule of 'helpful suggestions' !!!!!

Did I tell you about the aqueduct I was looking at the other day? Lol !