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    Depot Lane

    in Boxfiles, Micro layouts & Dioramas

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    On 17/06/2020 at 22:39, M.R.P.G said:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OO-Gauge-Micro-Model-Railway-Layout-Shunting-Diorama-Exhibition-Standard/164244707024?hash=item263dbf56d0:g:rDgAAOSwZtpe5keq

     

     

     

    Talk about stealing our idea lol

    Track plan isn't exact . But he obviously has no ideas of his own.

    And selling it on EBay . A rip off Depot Lane what a p...k

     

    Sadly the link doesn't work anymore curious to see what this "copy" looked like.... 

    Laser cut buildings, the competition,

    in Modelling Questions, Help and Tips

    Posted

    Hi, 

     

    I really like the look of this building, RLL610TC Toton Fuel Line Store - Maintenance Office - OO Gauge Kit - Railway Laser Lines

     

    but also like the look of these buildings, OO Gauge Model Railway MDF Laser Cut Lineside Trackside Rail Brick Office | eBay 

     

    Just wondered what peoples thoughts were on the two as there's quite a price difference, TIA. 

     

    MEE on "Pool Flashes" on Class 31s.

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted · Edited by 18B

    Hi, on a pic on flickr I noticed an unidentified Class 31 at Warrington Bank Quay 23-5-89 with a the flashes under the cab winder having the Letters MEE, presumably Mechanical and Electrical Engineer? I've seen other Class 31s along with Class 20s and some other Classes with, LMR, ER, WR, AR etc on them to denote that they were part of that region's Civil Engineer's Fleet, but never seen one with the MEE leters...? anyone any ideas on how many had this?

     

    Here's the link 31-125 and an unidentified rail blue sister on the Up loo… | Flickr

     

     

    The Areas of Railfreight / Early Trainload era.

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted

    1 minute ago, nigb55009 said:

    Thinking about the Local Trip Notice I mentioned earlier, it was later than 1982. Probably more likely 1987/8. The trip workings covered an area including

    Warrington, Springs Branch, Preston, Carnforth, Barrow, Workington and Carlisle depots, as well as Crewe, Chester, Llandudno Jn and Holyhead.

    Garston and Ellesmere Port, which had include work transferred from Birkenhead. I think by that time Northwich had closed, the work andsome of the 

    men, moving to Warrington. Around the same time, Buxton and Manchester area freight traffic came under the responsibility of North West Freight, were

    as previously freight had been part of each Area Managers control. I can`t remember when Buxton`s freight work was moved to Peak Forest, I think it would

    have been a little later. 

     

     

    1987/8 is exactly the period that this would refer to, those early Trainload Freight days. Buxton went to Peak Forest in 1994 IIRC. or certainly very much around that date. 

    The Areas of Railfreight / Early Trainload era.

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted

    17 minutes ago, nigb55009 said:

    No, I mean North Wales freight services. Trains to Holyhead, Amlwch, Transffyndd etc. I used to have a Local Trip Notice, from 1982  I think, which included Llandudno Junction workings as well as Chester and Holyhead. 

     

    Oh, so North West Freight also covered north Wales? 

     

    Within Railfreight it was then split into areas in the late Railfreight early Trainload Freight era. to give:

    East Midlands Freight

    West Midlands Freight

    Yorkshire Freight 

    Humberside Freight

    North West Freight

    West Of England Freight..... 

    The Areas of Railfreight / Early Trainload era.

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted

    1 hour ago, nigb55009 said:

    There was also North West Railfreight, based at Warrington. The area covered up to Carlisle, including the Cumbrian coast. ISTR it also covered the

    North Wales coast, Buxton area and Crewe, including MGR workings from Silverdale Colliery. I`m not sure about the Stoke area, that might have become

    part of one of the Midlands areas.

     

     

    When you say north Wales, do you mean the "North West Freight"? 

    The Areas of Railfreight / Early Trainload era.

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted

    The epochs of the Running of Freight, (I understand them) were:

     

    Regions, LMR, WR, ScR, SR, ER. 

     

    Sectors, Railfreight (InterCity, LSE then NSE, Provincial, Parcels)

     

    Within Railfreight it was then split into areas in the late Railfreight early Trainload Freight era. to give:

    East Midlands Freight

    West Midlands Freight

    Yorkshire Freight 

    Humberside Freight? 

    West Of England Freight..... 

     

    Presumably there were others that covered the whole of the UK? 

     

    It was then in the early 1990s that the Trainload Freight reformed and carved up to into three regional companies,

    TLF-W, TLF-SE and TLF-NE, 

     

    These were what were then rebranded as Loadhaul, Transrail and Mainline. Only to all be sold to what became EWS. 

     

     

    The Areas of Railfreight / Early Trainload era.

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted

    12 hours ago, Hippel said:

    The areas you refer to (East Midlands Freight) etc. were still under British Rail before TLF etc. I was at East Midlands Passenger and we were reorganised into shadow TOCs before privatisation itself.

     

    Paul

     

    Hi Paul, 

     

    Yes the Freight side had areas and so did the passenger side under Provincial, on the LMR they were IIRC Nottingham, Birmingham, Manchester and Liverpool amongst others I believe. 

    East Midlands freight operations in the late 80's

    in UK Prototype Questions

    Posted

    On 15/04/2020 at 10:26, Fat Controller said:

     Metal Box had a plant at Kirkby-in-Ashfield, which recieved tinplate in VCAs, and then SPAs.

    There were oil terminals at Doe Hill and Warsop (BP).

    Mansfield Sand had a quarry at Berry Hill.

    Stanton and Staveley ironworks, now part of St-Gobain, I believe, has despatched large-diameter cast-iron pipes by rail for export relatively recently. The loads were carried in a mix of BDA and SPA wagons. I'm not aware of any recent inbound traffic; if there were, I would expect pig-iron and scrap, as the blast furnaces have been shut for quite a long time. There had been chemical traffic from part of the site, using by-products from the coking ovens.

     

     

    The explosives where from Alfreton chemicals and Explosives products, just half a mild north of Alfreton

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