ArthurK

4 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

I've not come across Dawson kits but I have built one or two from Leinster - as you say tinplate but I've no objection to that, i do a lot of work in steel.

Many  years ago I built several Dawson kits for a friend. I built the Stanier 2-6-4T, 8F and Britannia. The it was the turn of the Jubilee. I cheated on that one, I made templates from the first and built two! The second was sold to another friend. In retrospect I wish I had photographed all of them. I do have photos of the Jubilee (attached) and a poor one of the Britannia. I don't know what happened to them as my friend died some time ago.

ArthurK

2 hours ago, AndyViking said:

Arthur

 

can you let me know if I am on your list for a D20 when they are ready?

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

Yes you're in the next six. It shouldn't be long, but I have  a lot on my plate at the moment.

ArthurK
 

27 minutes ago, drmditch said:

I may have missed something earlier, but do you have news of the V ?

Will it be the original V or the V/09 ?

 

Sorry for a number of reasons the C6 has been delayed. I won't appear until next year.

ArthurK

Hello Tom,

I am currenly packing a ne batch of six J73s. Not all of these are reserved.

I have just one Fletcher cab J77. This was the firstof a new batch. this batch had a new style of cab floor which I folded to check that it was OK. Otherwise  the remainder is untouched apart from the boiler being rolled. It is yours if you want it.

I have four N10s on order. These are all reserved but I think that it is not too late to get another four. Delivery of these will 5-6 weeks.

ArthurK

4 hours ago, Worsdell forever said:

Hope I'm still on the list for a P1/J25, might be tempted by an E too... 

Yes, You are on the List.

I have a batch of six E Class (J71) awaiting packing.

Arthur

18 minutes ago, Barry O said:

Arthur I asked about a D20 kit. When do you want to be paid? Let me know and i Can get it all sorted.

 

Baz

Currently packing the next six. There are still some castings to sort., but you should get one of those.

My policy is to not accept money until I can supply the kit. I will be in touch when yours is ready.

Arthur

2 hours ago, Asterix2012 said:

Hi Arthur 

 

Do you have a list of what you have currently available?

The attached list contains  the current status

NORTHEASTERN KITS PRICE LIST.pdf

Arthur

13 hours ago, Grosmont Jnc said:

Arthur

 

Thankyou for your kind words.  I have to say I would really recommend the N10 as a great starter kit for a beginner like me so if anyone out there fancies one - message Arthur.  If not I'll have another one!

 

I'm assuming COVID has caused all sorts of issues, but dare I ask is there any further news on the J25??

 

Joe

The J25 is  on thre verge of being packed. Awaiting a few ccastings, Boilers to roll etc.

4 hours ago, micklner said:

or the C6 ?

The C6 is on hold but  not forgotten . At the moment I a m  concentrating on the F8. The design  of thre latter is 90% complete.

ArthurK

Joe,

Always pleased to see  builds from my kits, especially when the results are as  good as this.

Bowes Bridge had two of N10s. (Tongue in cheek), I have  Just one left!

Very nice work.

Arthur

It's not only handrails and footplate bits that get bent.  I photographed this J27 several times in this condition, first at North Blyth then  at Sunderland.  It ended is days at the latter shed.  It appears that is was lifted using  a couple of hawsers around the boiler!

ArthurK

17 hours ago, micklner said:

Have you a photo please ?

 

Any suggestions re the dreaded 0-4-4 Tank Loco, re the rear bogie set up ?

 

 

Not really a problem if you compensate both the driving wheels and  the bogie.  Allow the bogie take the weight with no vertical movement. Use a small diameter support for bogie so that it can rock.

I recommend this method for both 4-4-0s and  0-4-4s.

ArthurK

3 hours ago, Barry O said:

IStrangely my Nucast Q6 chassis is fine - it is fitted with an MW005 motor which devours electricity but can pull a house down!

 

Baz

It may be able to pull a house down but don't put it alongside  the RTR Q6. You may then realise that it is a Q5 with a bigger boiler. The latter is 6mm short and the underframe is 4mm short. 

If you are happy with it, fine. I assume the dimensions have never been corrected. I couldn't live with mine and I disposed of it.

ArthurK

4 hours ago, Tony Wright said:

 

 

How anyone can contemplate getting a loco chassis to run well without its being assembled on a jig of some description, I have no idea. Even where frames have screw-together, turned spacers (SEF, for instance), I'll still check everything for accuracy by using jig axles (Markits/LRM), adjusting as necessary. Your A5 chassis could be made rigid by employing jig axles. 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

Must have done something  wrong. All my early  scratchbuilt models were built without any newfangled jigs, but this  was  fifty years ago.  A chassis were built from half inch brass channel all of  1/16" thick.  My drill was a hand-drill clamped  to a board . The chassis was carefully marked the drilled by pushing  the chassis with a block of 3"X4" timber with the left hand whilst turning the drill with the right. Once the first side of the channel had been  drilled it was carefully aligned before continuing to drill the second side. Coupling rods marked and drilled undersized then adjusted to fit.

In defence of such crudity I always succeeded in getting them to run well.

Yes, times have changed.  I now use jig(Eileen's)  but all my recent modelling is compensated and  in P4 which requires a bit more sophistication.

ArthurK

On 5/8/2020 at 11:57 AM, ovbulleid said:

Does anyone know what work would be required to backdate one of these into an NER T2? I wouldn’t plan to repaint one into NER green (I thought their freight engines were black anyway), just want to know what would be required beyond renunbering and rebranding. 

The thing often overlooked is the fact that most of the Q6s were built with Schmidt superheaters. These  were the favoured option of the NER. These did not have the Gresley vacuum valve behind the chimney but had a manually operated valve on the left side of the  smokebox. This arrangement continued well into the 1930s and only changed when the superheaters were replaced by the Robinson style on new boilers. 

If you are returning your model to the NER period then some carried pyrometers to record superheater temperatures. these were visible on the left shoulder of the smokebox. A pipe dropped from here to below the handrail the horizontally to the cab.

ArthurK

I form the flares in all my NER tenders  and supply these with my kits. I was doing so  many I made a special tool to help. This consists of a piece of thick walled brass (1/8th ID) tube filed down to half its diameter the  flare is placed in that. Then with a piece of 1/8th silver steel on top the whole is  squashed in a vice.

ArthurK

The DJH D20 tender in very poor in detail and accuracy. First no 3940 gallon tenders (which ran with the D20s) ever had the later style  of outside frames with oval frame cut-outs. That style appear under Raven's guidance. The 3940 tenders had the near semi-circular cut-outs. There was also  a similar (though smaller) cut at the front and rear. Next, the tender running plate was only 8' wide. The loco running plate was 8' 6". I am not sure if DJH got that right. Best to check. I made that mistake  when I made the masters for the Chiver's kit. The upper tank detail is not good.

The motorising and balance of a 4-4-0 is always a problem but with a little extra trouble it can be easily overcome (but, dare I say it?) it requires compensation. I use  simple compensation beams on the driving axles and a fully compensated bogie. The latter has no vertical movement. Add as much weight as possible behind the leading driver but keep the centre of gravity ahead that axle. The ensures that the bogie carries some of the loco weight, as it should.

Another problem with the  D20 is that the bogie had 4'  0" wheels (as did the tender).  Most will elect to fit under-size wheels with frames cutaway to clear them but this does cause a big difference the the appearance of the front end.

My solution was to bend the front frames in sufficient to get a OO model around curves of roughly 30"l. Even with this approach it is necessary to remove material from the underside of a cast footplate to clear "near-scale" diameter wheels.

I am pleased to see that DJH are now providing the longer smokebox

ArthurK

On 27/01/2020 at 20:35, Blandford1969 said:

HI Arthur a random question do you have any spare superheated smokeboxes from your J25 kits I could maybe purchase?

 

many thanks

 

Duncan

sorry, no.

My smokebox design is a bit unconventional. I doubt if you would get it to fit without a lot of trouble.
 

Arthur

NORTHEASTERN Kits

TENNANT 2-4-0

The latest batch of twelve are being packed ready for delivery.

I have names against eleven of these. They will shortly be receiving an Email or  PM .

If you want the last one send me a PM, there may not be a further batch.

Arthurk

Here is a J72 in departmental guise at Tyne Dock, BR built with straight ejector  pipe. Note the support from the tank.

58 was set aside for preservation but didn't make it.

ArthurK

4 hours ago, Bernard Lamb said:

I thought that most J72s did not have this pipe.

Looking at photos of those that do have it there are several machines from the last batch that have the lower pipe with a kink near he smoke box end.

I have not found any evidence of an earlier loco that has this kinked pipe. Of course the only photos that I can find of the Bachmann loco are of the other side. What to do with mine is a project for the New Year I think.

Remove?

Replace?

Renumber? But that adds  further modifications  as it needs the rear sandboxes added and possibly a change of buffers.

Find proof that Bachmann are correct.

Bernard

 

The J72s were a mix. Most were intended for shunting duties. The GA describes it  as  a  ''shuntjng tank'. and as such had no requirement  train brakes. A few were selected for pilot duties. These were required to move passenger stock and  were fitted with vacuum ejectors hence the additional pipe on the left. There were variations in running this pipe from cab to smokebox. Some hugged the boiler until it neared the smokebox these had a severe kink, then a second bend into the smokebox.

The smaller pipe from the firebox fed steam to the Dreadnought injector in the cab.

One further comment, not all the BR built locos  had vacuum ejectors fitted.

ArthurK

2 hours ago, Daddyman said:

 

Apart from the rods, a lesser niggle is the blower pipe (not really a niggle at all, as it will be fun to remodel): most J72s had this pipe suspended off the boiler and straight for most of its length, whereas Bachmann's hugs the boiler and then kinks out for the smokebox. Only Joem seems to have its blower pipe similar - but not the same - as this. The diameter of the pipe also looks a bit small. 

 

Why would anyone want to put a kink in the blower pipe? On every J72 photo that I have looked at it is straight. This pipe carried a rod from the cab to the cab to the  valve.  Any kink(s) would make the hand-wheel in the cab difficult, if not impossible, to turn.

All the bits that you are suggesting copying are all available from existing suppliers why not buy them.

ArthurK

Thanks for that Steve. Things are looking up a bit. I hope to get things moving more quickly in the New Year.

A merry   Xmas and  a happy New Year to all.

ArthurK

Northeastern Kits

A very merry Xmas to everyone

An update

As many of you will know my health suffered a setback in October so disrupting my schedules. Those expecting the Tennant 2-4-0 will have to wait a little longer, but I hope to clear all of these in January.

In the packing stage are three Q5s (all reserved) and a new batch of D20s. In January/ February I hope to begin deliveries of the J25 (there is a long list for this). The Q7 has been two steps forward one step back but it is progressing. The C6 is on hold. It requires new castings for the trailing axle springs (two lengths) and new tender spring dampers; also chimney safety valve covers etc. I hope to squeeze in another project which uses existing castings.

For immediate delivery I have just one NER ‘W’ Class 4-6-0T and one Fletcher cab J77

On another thread modellers are discussing the conversion Bachmann J72 to the short bunker version with drastic surgery at the rear. Why go to all that trouble when I have two of those for immediate delivery!

I also have one of the long bunker available.

ArthurK