26power

I think "approximate" might describe the appearance? Presumably the base wagon is the Bachmann "salt" wagon - I didn't look much further when I saw the underframe seemed to be the "china clay" one (ie with roller bearing axleboxes). The weathering is in quite a light colour - light grey or white. I'm not sure whether this was trying to suggest - grain or flour transport? Pictures at:

http://www.harburnhobbies.co.uk/acatalog/_00__Wagons.html

Picture of the preserved example at Bo'ness:

http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/10042.htm

Cheers,

26power

 

 

 

Harburn Hobbies in Leith, Edinburgh now also stock these cottage style wagons - http://harburnhobbie...0__Wagons.html. There is also one of these wagons preserved at Boness. I was going to build some kits myself using the parksiide models but took the easy option and bought a number of the Harburns wagons instead. This is the second batch that Harburn have commissioned. The first batch were un-weathered and the second batch are weathered.

 

Neil

Nice - think its a new addition?

If you click on the link for the railway description you'll see all the pictures for that line, and the next picture is a B&W shot of a Clayton on about 25 LGW grain hoppers! That's a lot of Parkside kits and Modelmaster transfers!

Cheers,

26power

We're back in the environs around the top end of the route again, amidst the various chords and flyovers of Niddrie, where this awesome shot of another Clayton and a short and very modelogenic raft of ten matching branded Leith Grain Warehouse wagons was captured, absolutely beautiful:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32963

Bit about this from a while back on Transport Scotland website at:

http://www.transportscotland.gov.uk/news/Proposal-to-realign-A7-and-Borders-Rail-Line+

I was trying to see if there were any details/drawings of this scheme available on-line. The link takes you to the SBC portal for planning applications, but unless you already know some details of the one you are looking for it doesn't look like you can search for anything! Anyone point to details? I seem to recall the Bathgate to Airdrie line had detailed drawings for all the stations on line - too early for that here? Surely not?

Cheers, 26power

 

 

It's Reborn Route time again, and it looks like the A7's getting a double roundabout at Falahill instead of the signature S-bend of yore:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...otland-12447055

Would think there would be a nice wee article for one of the mags about your yard lamps, especially if you can give some dimensions, have some prototype photographs etc. Or you could do an on-line "how to" on here!

Or as someone else said maybe marketing them, or maybe just even the turned lamps?

Cheers,

26power

One of those "prototype for everything" type pictures. (And the same for the "black" tarmac and the multi coloured brick work "over the wall").

Thanks for linking. The link at the end of the caption takes you to the "going away" shot as well.

Cheers,

26power.

By the power of RailScot, we are able to bring you this image, but I warn you, it is NOT for the fainthearted:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=32588

 

Looks as toylike as a Playcraft

Veering off topic a wee bit ....

Unfortunately 26 004 (D5304) not looking quite as bonny at Bo'ness at the moment.  Owned by 6LDA and kept at the SRPS site at Bo'ness.  Of course if anyone wants to help with restoration (either physically or financially) then contact me!

Both D5304 (Jamie's linked picture) and D5336 on the same site have paintwork damage to left hand cab front door for some reason:

http://britishdieselandelectriclocomotives.fotopic.net/p63060885.html

Cheers, 26power

 

 

new to this thread? http://britishdiesel.../p63892000.html

-found by accident.

I've always got these from EM Gauge Society, but presumably this who you mean?:

http://www.johnburn.co.uk/search.php?searchterm=dowels&submit=Search#

Couldn't see any prices though?

Cheers, 26power

 The SRPS have one at Bo'ness.  See this link:

http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/10127.htm

Who knows, it might even be the same one!

Cheers,

26power

 

 

Who can point me in the direction of more information, even a drawing, of the scuttling bothy?

Bernard

And some more pictures here:

http://devorgilla.fotopic.net/c1833960.html

Go steady with the saw!

Cheers,

26power.

Glen Lyon at Whitrope Siding:

http://gallery62603.fotopic.net/p55332087.html

From following a link on the rail mounted cranes thread.

Cheers,

26power

Amazing what sites there are on the www. Some good photography and interesting stories on this and obviously a heck of a lot of time and effort gone into it.

Elsewhere on it is a bit about Whitrope tunnel:

http://forgottenrelics.co.uk/tunnels/gallery/whitrope.html

Includes some BMcC pictures as well!

And Riccarton junction:

http://forgottenrelics.co.uk/stations/gallery/riccarton.html

Only one "when operational" picture.

Single pic of Shankend station as it is now:

http://forgottenrelics.co.uk/stations/reborn.html

(Finally a wee diversion for a single picture of Cronberry signal box (it says): http://forgottenrelics.co.uk/stations/redundant.html.  If so would be in contention for oddest/ugliest signal box?)

(Second finally, there is a sister site that looks like it might be worth a read: http://www.deathbyhealthandsafety.co.uk/)

Cheers, 26power

 

 

http://forgottenreli...y/shankend.html

 

Interesting!  What liveries and by whom?

Cheers,

26power

 

 

I noticed at BH last weekend some from the 2nd batch were being offered for £40

No idea about the reliability of the reviews, but doesn't sound promising:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/0860936333/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

One even indicates you are short changed on the page count!

Published by OPC, but couldn't  find their website straight off.

Sounds like one to find at a big discount!

Cheers, 26power

 

 

Well, my hot off the press copy of Last Years of the Waverley Route by David Cross arrived yesterday, nice birthday pressie, a few photos we've seen before but a whole load of new ones (to me at least)including a blue class 37 on the 0658 Hawick-Edinburgh.

 

Stuart

No e in your whisky, please!

Cheers,

26power

 

 

 Mr Clifford Road, you have totally blown me away with your knowledge of the Gaelic language. I need more education in this ancient tong, i have learnt all i know of this from the labels of whiskey bottles, and think i need more material to study. I think a field trip to the Western Isles would also be a good idea (Skye, here we come six weeks on Saturday).

 

Slàn leat

One thing that might be worth watching for is the length of the sand pipe to the centre (I think) drivers.  

I got one of the recent models (the one with the blue smokebox numberplate) a wee while ago and gave it a test run at the club, as you do.  Started of fine, but after only a few metres something went horribly wrong.  On inspection the connecting rod had bent badly.  

Loco went off to Hornby and was repaired pretty quickly at no cost (except for the postage to get it to them).  No mention of the cause, but as you can imagine the next test run was with a bit of concern.  Went okay, but the same thing just about happened!  The cause seemed to be the aforementioned sandpipe hanging so low that it caught in a rail joint.  I think this is what happened originally, as it would seem to almost stall the engine.  Seemed to be treatable by tweaking the pipe, but I think it maybe isn't shoved far enough into the sandbox before glue applied.  

Anyway, hopefully might be something for others to watch for.

Cheers,

26power

Recent MRJ 200 had an upgrade of a Hornby 8F.  Assuming it's the same tender (I guess it is) I think they got rid of the "valence" by fitting a Comet underframe to the Hornby body.

Front bufferbeam.  I seem to recall Coachmann suggesting it needed to be deeper to get the buffer height right?  It's with his stuff on here.

Watching with interest.

Cheers,

26power.

I think The Central Bar will be named after the station. If I remember rightly right at the station site, naturally.

You have had your "jags" though?

Cheers,

26power

Mate, I love that shed. When I'm up there next I shall drink a toast to its memory - if there's anything remotely resembling an ordinary saloon bar in the vicinity these days, that is

Presumably if somebody got the list of horseboxes they could post it here without that being a problem?

Cheers,

26power

The next batch of kits in 4mm will be from the horse box range, for a list of these please send SAE to:

 

D&S Models

46 The Street

Wallington

nr Baldock

Herts

SG7 6SW

 

As Dan is not on e-mail/internet, I can pass on any comments etc. posted on this Forum.

 

Regards

Paul

But the caption of the coming towards you picture has more details of the stock:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=27043

And if you go to the Craigentinny index there are other colour temptations!

Cheers

26power

and the sort-of OT bonus ball:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=28789

Hi

Ended up at your pages because your coach pictures at top of main page.

A quick search at Fox transfers shows that they do two sizes of "SeaLink" lettering.  I've no idea though why there are two sizes or which one used when!

I've three lots of colour pics torn from mags:

May 1987 Rail.  16/0/86 Blackpool - Glasgow at Greenholme on WCML.

Dec 1984 Rail.  Double page spread with three pics taken 18/07/84 on Glasgow - Stranraer trains.

Jun 1985 Modern Railways.  Single pic on 24/04/84 at Pinwherry of a Glasgow - Stranraer (full brake at front in blue/grey).

The Modern Railways one is probably a random acquistion - didn't subscribe, but the Rail ones might be about all the colour ones they published.  There might have been B&W ones or other info but when disassembling my copies I wouldn't have been interested enough to keep that sort of thing - sorry.

If you are not already aware of it the scot-rail forum type thing (http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/page/HomePage) might have someone who could give you more info - coach numbers etc.

Hope this is a wee bit of help.

Cheers,

26power.

Seems to me to be a relatively constructive response from Bachmann.  Or at least dismissive in a very polite way!

I wonder if the comments re the K3 mean it didn't/hasn't washed its face financially, or just that not as successful as hoped for.  eg I don't recall them being offered at the clearance prices of some items, but then the one or two I have already are probably enough for me not to ne watching that market too closely.

Seems to me to be either a J36 or a Caley 0-4-4 represents the best two likely to succeed.  I wonder if there is a "Remembrance" angle with regard to the J36, given their WW1 involvement?

Photos, information etc.  

Both Maude and 419 are out of Service at Bo'ness at the moment.  The intention seems to be to get 419 overhauled quickly for 50th anniversary of SRPS (next year).  Might enable photos whilst stripped down, but at same time reducing opportunities for pics of a "complete" loco.  Historic photos - a database of all published photos in service would be useful.  A detailed class history, loco by loco of differences, changes, liveries carried etc. would no doubt be beneficial.  Similarly information of who, what and where has un-published stuff.  eg are there works drawings available, and if so where?

It might be that this detailed info would help someone other than the big two progress any eventual model.

Market research

How to undertake a polling of sufficient modellers to get an useful  and large enough response seems to be the big challenge.  I'm not sure you even found all the Scottish modellers on RMWeb who might be interested, because of the sub-forum where it is.  I think I was pretty late in finding it, for example.

Here's a couple of thoughts:

Get one of the mags onboard, maybe if they already have some sort of wishlist poll?  eg how was a market for a Sentinel shunter demonstrated?

Undertake a survey at next year's Glasgow show, on the presumption that most in Scotland that have the sort of interest in this sort of loco will go there.  But how to maximise the response?  Something in the guide to fill in/hand in?  Not everyone gets a guide.  Hand out simple questionnaires to all entering?  People already have lots of things on their minds or "family" market unlikely to be interested.  People with clipboards asking?  Unlikely to reach as many folk.  Increase response by making responses worthwhile - prize draw for all entries?  Major effort/decent number of people required to get a decent response.  Probably need in this day and age professional info boards/pictures eg these roll up things.  All costs money.  eg how good a response to Strathspey extension appeal at this year's exhibition was there?

Or do the same at Warley - maybe a more representative test of the market?

The questions being asked would have to reflect the reality of the likely asking price.  eg no good asking would you buy a 00 model of a J36, for example.  Far too many Scottish modellers would say yes, on the presumption it was £30, or something equally out of date.  It needs to be in context.  eg, how likely would you be to buy a 00 J36 at £xxx, and then a range of not at all through to most definitely.  Then ask how many.  £xxx reflecting the RRP of, say,  the new 3F.  (Which is £69.95 on Bachmann's price list).  You would also need to know how many people asked, I guess, so that an answer could be extrapolated.

I wonder how much heed Hornby pay to their poll, since nothing to stop people making multiple responses, either at the one show or at multiple shows.  Noticeable that Bachmann don't do a poll at exhibitions.

Maybe a Glasgow poll could be wider ranging and by AMRSS to inform manufacturers about the wider Scottish market?

Whatever, you probably need people who have a far better understanding of how to undertake this sort of poll/market research than I certainly have!

Cheers,

26power

Interesting link.

Given the discussion re the Heljan 86 on the relevant thread, is this reference "and we know our Class 86 from our Class of 68." just a coincidence?

Cheers,

26power

 

 

There may be a new player in the game. http://maytex.rapido....com/index.html . I have seen the work that Rapido has done on Canadian prototypes  and the detail on these models is fantastic. They specifically mention UK prototypes in their intro so may be interested in an inroad into the UK market. Jason Shron, the man behind Rapido, is a fiend for accuracy so a product from him would be a good one.

 

HTH

 

David

 

BTW I should add the usual disclaimer of having no connection with the company other than a satisfied customer.

With regard to reintroduction of Eastfield Models chassis kits, there were notices on the front of the Burntisland stand at Glasgow saying that this was happening.  

Unfortunately I can't remember the name under which they would be sold.  The J83 was already out and available on the Parkside stand, at, I think, £28.  Somewhat more than Eastfield Models chassis kits were going for on Ebay earlier this year, if I remember correctly.

Cheers,

26power

 

 

Hmmm! From the responses it would seem that any of the locos requested are unlikely, although I do wonder whether T9's or M7's sold in sufficient quantities to be viable!

 

So what do we do? Lets consider kits, Basic and relatively straight forward kits are available for J36 (Gem, although much better with an Eastfield Models chassis, which is difficult to get - start a lobby to get these out again!) DJH produced kits for the Jumbo which were as easy a kit as you can get! Their 439 is also available but is a pig to balance correctly. Caley Coaches produces a brass kit for the 812 (and variants) but requires good soldering skills. All these locos are relatively simple in design and therefore the kits are reasonably straight forward. So if you can source any of these have a go!

The lamp irons inboard of the tail (?) lamps are pretty non standard - usually outside (and lower) ala Heljan model.

A quick look at the pics in "BR Fleet Survey, No. 1" shows:

D5300 and D5303 with them inside. The former as delivered and the latter as 5303 with original yellow front and as 26 003 with later yellow cab sides.

D5314 and D5319 with them outside. 2 x shots of the former are 1959 so presumably as delivered.

No doubt further browsing would enable the changeover to be pinned down. But 004 as preserved has them outside, so presumably eventually the position standardised.

Cheers,

26power

Just a thought - the youtube movie shot of an A3 north of Galashiels must have been taken before the power signalling was introduced.

Here's a shot not quite at the same location. Frustratingly, I can make out D53{squiggle}7.

 

Bruce

Might have been for a lamp.  

The "protrusions" look like they might be cast iron (I assume) steps/handholds.  There is a similar post with these in the recreated goods yard at Bo'ness.

Cheers,

26power

That is a nice picture for sure but just what is the white post on the left?

 

http://rniescottisha.../p48424399.html