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Hi. Wonder if the sidings and mill should all be swung round a bit, so that the line of the buildings isn't parallel to the baseboard edge, as it appears to be in the fourth picture?
Also wonder if the size of the complex would justify a need for its own loco? Would the reality not be that it would be shunted daily/as needs be by the trip working setting off/picking up wagons at it? And if something needed moved inbetween times it could be just a pinchbar, or later a motorised wagon mover (little bit like a wheelbarrow)?
An example I thought of of an industrial siding without a headshunt was a military depot at Throsk, because of the pictures of it posted by Ernie Brack, see:https://flic.kr/p/2b14y5M as an example. However that is off a double track, and it might be that there was interchange sidings within the depot. I suspect the available mapping of the time doesn't show the full extent of that facility, see: https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14&lat=56.1094&lon=-3.8463&layers=193&b=1 No doubt there were examples on the real railway of facilities with and without their own headshunts!
Anyway, just some thoughts, I have no particular knowledge of how something like this would have worked!
Thanks for your blog posts, always interesting reading, particularly your extensive use of a laser cutter etc.I'll have a good look at the relationship between the buildings and the baseboard before I make any decisions. I agree that having a locomotive is probably complete overkill but I think I can be forgiven for wanting an excuse for a small industrial. It is a really probably that we don't yet have a 4mm scale working horse available. The other option would of course be a tractor with pushing bars, seeing one of those radio controlled in 4mm would be fun too.
David
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No the handle isn't removable but there is still plenty of clearance to get the cassette out. David
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Hi Dave
The laser can cut pretty damn accurately, so as long as I got the drawing right, the bits fit. The thickness of the laser <.5mm was enough for the alignment between the two parts to be a nice sliding fit.
thanks
David
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Spoke to one very dedicated exhibition goer yesterday who went to see you in Beds on Saturday and then me at NEC on Sunday!
I hadn't realised that the other hall was hosting ComicCon. My younger son went to that. I bet the trains were an 'interesting mix' of gricers and cosplayers!
David
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Hi David.
Yes, I very much enjoy seeing the progress with your layout. As Western Star says, the trackwork looks very neat and flowing and you seem to be making good progress.
In the bottom photo, is the left hand point just a trap at the end of the lay-by or does it extend further towards the yawning gap?
Keep up the good work.
Dave.
To quote Admiral Ackbar "it's a trap"
David
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B10 seems an odd configuration given that C8 is a natural... might C10 be a cleaner arrangement?
The cross over is on a curve and I'd originally used a 1:10 angle V in Templot. However your reply got me thinking because about 6 months ago I ordered a load of components from C&L when I thought I was going to give up on the Stour Valley and do something smaller/simpler. Typically I'd ordered 4 B8 points and was now faced with making 1:10 crossings myself.
Your reply led me to go back into Templot and see what impact using a 1:8 crossing would have and the answer appears to be very little, I can still make the turnout fit on the baseboard fine and, while my existing marking out of the cork will no longer be right for the crossover line, the main curve of the track remains unchanged. So I've modified the plan using C8 for the cross over, I've made the catch point as a B8 as it isn't exactly a 'running line' and that leaves the switchblades clearer of the baseboard edge.
Looks like you've saved me from having to make 3 crossings by hand - thanks!
David
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Lovely work - I can't remember if I
I asked before but what thickness of ply do you use?
6mm laser ply from slecuk.co.uk
David
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Hi David, I'm new to the site, and slowly uploading details of my "Clackwick" layout - now in its' 14th year of development. As an old Clactonian, I remember well Marks Tey station - although (to my regret) I never visited. Good luck with the development of your layout, and more so with your ongoing treatment. What gauge is your layout?
Mike
Hi Mike
The layout is based on Clare, pretty much to scale except with a slight curve at the Marks Tey end. At the Cambridge end I'm bringing Ashen Road level crossing nearer to the station and adding in a siding to a mill for additional operational interest. Layout is built to 18.83 Scalefour standards.
David
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Superb work David. I quite enjoy working with wood - have experimented with laser cut items for buildings before, but never rolling stock. Might have to give that a go . Certainly some incentive there! Have to go and have a look through your blog for any other views of it!
Rich
There are plenty of sites which can generate a 'box' for you. I used http://www.makercase.com/
David
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Superb work, well done. Lovely diesel too - is that scratch built or kit built? Rich
Thanks Rich
the loco is scratch built, laser cut body work, some 3d printed bits for the engine block and buffers and some etched bits done for me by PPD.
David
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I just copy the a .dxf out of templot into TurboCAD, I used the laser cutter to just mark the surface of cork.
David
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Hello David. It was great to see you all at Ely and finally get to see Fen End PIt at last. the layout was worth the wait to see and i hope i didnt make a nuisance of myself by hanging around your stand for so long. It was as inspiring at Ely as it was the first time i saw it in the magazine and in my opion the public was right to vote it best in show.Well Done. Thank you all for spending so much time talking with me about 16mm i now must get something built on the back of your inspiration. I too would like to thank the Ely Model Railway club for a fantastic day and to all the great people i meet there. Keep those Simplex pictures and text coming please and I wish you well with your health issues. Kind Regards Alan.
Thanks Alan,
It was good to see you again and have a longer chance to chat. It is always good to hear that folks appreciate what I've built and even better if they then feel they want to go off and build something themselves.
David
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Repeat after me, three times:
I do NOT want a Slaters Simplex!
Not sure where I'll be come the Ely show but I've loved 'Fen End Pit' since it first appeared in 'The Review'.
It is the sort of place I would have tried to visit when I was a teenager.
If I can I'll get there and say 'hello'.
SAM
aka 'Victor Vectis'
Go On, Go On, Go On...
David
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I have made similar boards and what really reduces the twisting is adding some diagonal bracing. Just putting a couple of diagonal braces makes all the difference. I had a 4x2 board with 50mm bracing from 6mm ply and got just a few millimetres of deflection.
Good luck
David
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Hello David First can i say what a pleasue it was to meet you at the East Anglia Model Show and thank you for spending so much time talking to me. I am over the moon that Fen End Pit will be at Ely as its the first chance ive ever had to see it. I am studying all your blogs on the Simplex what a fantastic job you are doing with it. May i wish you all the best with the health issues my thoughts are with you. I lookfoward to seeing you,Fen End Pit and all your team at Ely. Lastly may I just say how much your work has in spired me and help me decide the type of modelling and layout i want for myself Alan.
Thanks Alan
Talking to you at the St. Neot's show gave me a real boost!
Looking forward to seeing you at Ely.
David
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David, DCC Simplex sound is now available.....https://youtu.be/pR9njv09tZ4 And....http://www.digitrains.co.uk/ecommerce/search/zssa-simplex-activedrive-sound-file.aspx I plan to use it in a 7/8ths Tin Turtle and a 20/28. Ian
Thanks for that, I'll have a chat with Digitrains at St Neot's show tomorrow
David
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Chassis coming along nicely there.
Your post inspired me to have a dig about and there is quite a lot of video of simplex in action. I rather liked this one.
The horn in your audio clip must be a later addition, would they have had any sort of warning horn early on, given that they had no air and no electrics ?
I like that clip - thanks for pointing it out.
The sound file is just a generic continental 'Lanz Tractor' so the horn, bells etc are just additional functions on the chip that I would probably not use...
My Son on the other hand......
David
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Answer: 102...
A very nice little review/article.
I weakened and ordered an additional 'fan motor' from Nigel Lawton
David
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It is called peritrack and was used to make perimeter tracks on airfields during WW2 so plenty knocking about in East Anglia.
Glad it was recognizable!
David
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I won't want to be on the top desk whenever that biplane flies over!
Lovely bit of modelling
David
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Great stuff - are these tracks easily to scale down to 4mm? And still print OK?
What is the actual dimensions of these tracks? Might be usable in some of the larger Ruston's like the RB110?
I think you'd have trouble with scaling down the prongs and slots that join them together and the holes for the wire which keep them together. You'd be best to redraw the model with only some of the dimensions reduced. The actual size of each of these tracks is 30x12mm
David
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I'd vote for anything which isn't yet another china clay dry
David
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Remarkable! Is this printed in PLA or ABS?
I used a black PLA 1.75mm filament, the Wanhao duplicator i3 plus is unmodified, fitted with a .4mm noozle. nothing clever or modified (at this stage, I'm contemplating putting an upgraded fan and fan housing at some point)
David
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Very nice, but needs a visit to the coaling stage before it'll get very far
David
Stour Valley Dream - Let terraforming commence!
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Packaging material from some office whiteboards, as per first paragraph..
David