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Just one side needs connecting, pair of brake pipes and the 27 way control jumper.  Having a pair meant redundancy and possibly convenience thjough if a 33/1 coupled up to a TC at Bournemouth bhy the time it had been to Weymouth and back it was on the "wrong" side for the shunter when the 33/1 came off. There was also the ETH jumper but that was at buffebeam level on the TC

You can also haul a  TC with a green 33. The TC's carried brake pipe extensions to connect the hi-level pipes to the beam mounted ones.  The  TC's buckeye had to be dropped and the buffers extended as there was no rubbing plate on the 33/0. The 33/1s buffers could be extended/retracted depending on what stock they were working with, retracted for the rubbing plate, extended for normal stock.

Stu

Just to add to what's already been said   you'll have to modify the cab handrails as well.  The KA ( TOPS 33/0) had 2 that went from under the cabside window right round to under the headcose and another on the other side as per your model. The KB ( TOPS 33/1) has 3 rails, cabside to just round the front - jumpers-  handrail - jumpers - handrail, if you have a look a photos it's pretty clear. Good source here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/albums/72157627812692593

The bottom edge of the cab front cut back to clear the rubbing plate modification, not that noticeable but there and while we're at it to be completely accurate you'll need larger buffers, the TC fit had 22" compared to 20" on the unfitted but it's not  really worth the hassle plus the horn enclosure on the cab roof needs filling in for a pre-TOPS one.

Stu

5 hours ago, WM183 said:

Are Romford wheels still available? I thought they'd stopped making them for some reason. 

https://www.hamodels.net/wheels-bearings-back-to-back-gauges-reamer-cutting-tool/romford-4mm-oo-price-per-axle.html

Undoubtedly others out there.

And I agree with Mike, a Bo-Bo would be a better place to start, Bachy 20/24/25, Heljan 26/27/33

Just to clarify I've used OO as well as EM axle sets. File off the pinpoints, transfer cog and regauge

Stu

While I'll agree with Mike on most of what he's said a couple of comments.

I've used romford EM coach wheels on Heljan diesels, need to remove the cog from the Heljan axle and swap to the Romford ones, adjust pickups and that's it. The Romfords wheels a tad narrower tyhan the Heljan ones so no clearance issues.

As for the 08 the Gibson conversion is not that difficult, just need to take your time and get the quatrtering right which can take a bit of tweaking once it's all together.

Gibson so a crib sheet

http://www.alangibsonworkshop.com/

Find Downloads at top of page, then RTR Conversion How To's

Stu

Hi,

Anyone stripped one of these down and how easy was it.

Thanks

Stu

The Rapido blurb has a shot of D2295 at Weymouth early 60's,  it's the Southern Region version with extra marker lights etc. If they do that I'll be well pleased [sentimental reasons :-)]

Stu

IIRC don't the 57 + 87 have a certain amount of springing to the centre axle  which the 64 doesn't.

It shouldn't be a major problem to get the pickups in constant contact with the wheels and appreciate Bachmann don't have a great track record with setting up pickups. But noticed you don't say whether you have live or insulated frogs on the point work that may play a part.

Stu

Hi,

Have a look here at the MJT sides

https://www.dartcastings.co.uk/mjt.php#CarriageComponents-Sides

Stu

6 hours ago, Halvarras said:

D6580 had external conduits to the high-level MU pipes and no corridor buffing plates (Class 33 experts can maybe add to this list)

It had 33/0  20" buffers as opposed to the 22" retractable ones on the fleet 33/1's though Heljan use the same size on all their 33's.

Stu

Yes Halvarras is correct, they were built with modified exhausts. Theres a clear picture of one in "Power of the 33's".

Stu

7 hours ago, Halvarras said:

Yet they began painting full yellow ends on green from early 1967,

I'd be very interested in one in GFYE in early 67 as IIRC Eastleigh had their hands full getting the TC conversions done. I thought most the green ones that got FYE did so when the exhausts were modified.

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The one I remember seeing is the one in electric blue the same as the ac electrics. That’s all from memory, so I’m sure I’ll get shot down. Don’t forget that there were 2 versions of corporate blue at that time because the first one didn’t live up to the supplier’s spec and wore badly.

The "electric blue" one, 73004, was painted Bluebell Blue in 1987 in connection with an event on the railway.. No ED was ever electric blue neither were there 2 versions of Rail Blue, actually an existing colour called Monastral Blue. Yes there were different methods of application, brush, airbrush, airless spraying which needed slightly different formulation of paint that gave different finishes. It was the airless sprayed paint used on the REP's/TC's and VEP's that was semi-matt and could, and did, look worn. They were repainted to blue/grey quite quickly but the paint wasn't the only reason for this.

Stu

18 hours ago, Rivercider said:

The 45XX tanks formerly allocated to Yeovil Pen Mill GWR shed were transferred to Yeovil Town SR, do they count?

When Weymouth shed transferred to the Southern there were still 45XX's, eg 4562, at Bridport sub-shed so terchnically SR loco's.

Stu

1 hour ago, Steamport Southport said:

Maybe due to snagging platforms?

Memory might be playing tricks but weren't a number WR classes banned east of Basingstoke because of clearance.

Stu

Weymouth  (71G) had a couple, 4166 +4133 IIRC, allocated in the early 60's for banking up Bincombe primarily.

Stu

On 07/01/2022 at 07:17, sb67 said:

As a way of getting away from the scenic side of my layout I've finally started to upgrade some Hornby OAA wagons

And after all your hard work.......

https://rapidotrains.co.uk/br-diagram-1-191-oaa-open-wagon/

Stu

14 minutes ago, Jack Benson said:

Presumably, if the clay wagons were dropped off at Dorchester West (where exactly were the sidings?) the BR standard came up from Weymouth with its train, picked up the clay wagons and then headed north…..

There were a couple of sidings on the Up (?) side, there were sited on the right side beyond the platform in this photo.

http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/uploads/7/6/8/3/7683812/2903566_orig.jpg

Looking at the photo again 73018 appears to have a "soup can" smokebox number so that would date it 66/67 very near the end of steam. And yes it would seem logical the perishable train started at Wey and picked up the clays at the west. The van behind the loco looks to be a fruit van so maybe they couldn't leave all the train between Dorchester Junction and the sidings so it had to stay with the loco.

Stu

Well it's a long term Weymouth Class 5 and the scenery looks right for round MN. Looking at the load I wonder if it's clay wagons added to a Westbury bound perishables, if so they'd have probably been added at the West. I can't say I remember any clay wagons turning up at Weymouth but that's no guarantee after so long.

Stu

Edit - the headcode might mean something to somebody.

A possible option though at a cost might be this, new wheelset with bearings.

https://www.petersspares.com/Hornby-x7359-duchess-class-loco-wheelset-r3642.ir

Stu

Wot, no Wessex pink one in the line-up,!

Seriousky great news with both pre TOPS and GFYP,well done guys

Stu

Another vote for the AS186. Mine doesn't have a tank and never found that an issue though do have a long hose which goes a way to smooth out the flow. A hose is an item you'll need to budget for along with a suitable respirator.

As for airbrush  I'd suggest something like this which comes with two sizes of nozzle.

https://www.air-craft.net/acatalog/Harder-Steenbeck-Ultra-2in1.html#SID=4   (no connection!)

Maybe at top end of budget but a recognised brand with good spares support.

Stu

Hi, We had a really good time at Doncaster and it was really good to talk to so many people after all this time. Our  "It's been two long years ...." sign seem to go down well and it was a bit of a Get out of jail free card when things went a bit wobbly in spite of  a deral of pre-show testing; intermittent short finally traced to a wagon underframe, dodgy wheelset and an 08 that gave up Sun PM plus the inevitable 3 link farces though people were (almost!) universally understanding.

Tim and I both spent rather more than we probably intended and he finally got me to have another look at the lighting rig so there will be some changes there.

Finally if anyone took any pics please put them on, it appears we were either too busy or too cream crackered to do it ourselves.

Thanks

Stu

Good to meet you over the weekend, it's a great layout you have there. Might have to find out how you got the sound to look so well synchronised, that was genuinely impressive. As for the stonewalling - certifiable!!

All the best

Stu

Excellent Steve, I'll put my two in the post :-)

Stu

Well done Andy, you deserve some downtime. People shouldn't be surprised when systems play up, they should be more surprised that it works in the first place.

Stu

Systems manager (retired thank goodness!)

What with Christmas and decorating things been busy but I have got on with the two pannier chassis’s over the past 3 months. The Comet one in OO was pretty straightforward, Gibson wheels and a recycled Mashima/Branchlines gearbox and it runs well even if the pickup arrangement is quite crude. There’s still a fair bit to do cosmetically, sandboxes plus some RTmodels pulls to put with them plus renumbering for which I have a couple possibles, 5781 and 7711, that actually are available etched though there’s always Railtec printed ones. The body really needs stripping back before I do much to it. Originally a split chassis version dating from waaay back, the chassis now long retired and the body stuck in a box for ages, things have moved on.

Sorry about the errant wiring :-(

The High Level kit is very different, far more detail and more complex but then anyone who’s ever looked at one realises that. It’s EM but I did bottle doing the compensated option. It’s been a steep curve over anything I’ve done before and not always gone well. That’s not a reflection on the kit or it’s comprehensive instructions, more to do with my limited experience/skills and not always figuring out where the instructions were going with some sections. I will though have a whinge about the false boiler bottom which needs to be formed out of a flat sheet, the work bench ending up looking like a prop from a cheap slasher movie, I’ll do something in plastic! It’s sort of running, there’s a tight spot that needs sorting plus the brakegear needs finishing but all things considered I’m content with progress so far.

Also have Hornby’s new AA15 Toad in bits. The handrails appear to be just pushfit and came off fairly easily, the roof took a little more persuading with a scapel blade. The body is held on by 4 tags and was separated by a flat blade between body and chassis. The intention is to do a vac piped version when I can find the info.

Won't be much progress over next few weeks as amongst other things got the Doncaster show coming up but thanks for looking.

Stu