HeavyDuty

Can I assume that unfitted grey 16T minerals would still be in fairly decent condition ca. 1961? I need to weather my Lionhearts..

I asked Andy why we couldn't rate this and other topics in 7mm + modeling it was just an oversight Andy sorted it in minuets.

 

May I be the first to rate this excellent Topic, Well deserved Martyn.

 

Grasshopper

For people worrying about space needed for O Gauge, and needing very little scenery, locos, or rolling stock - take a look at http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/15624 2 x 72" x 24" boards and an 18" fiddle-stick

I've seen this layout twice at the March Meet, and was impressed - it's the inspiration for a couple of my planned projects (in US O and N.)

I just found this thread and your website. Beautiful work!

Question: how do the headcode discs operate - are they held in position by friction or are they latching in some way? What are they constructed from - if plastic, do they seem like they can be changed frequently without issue?

(The fact that I'm even thinking about such things does not bode well for my wallet.)

(Edit) The Little Loco website answered this - they are described as being metal.

There you go..

Paul

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#nothelpingatall

Open your wallet and repeat after me... "Help Yourself".... 

I already sent a message to The Nth Degree with a question... I fear all hope is lost.

Thank you all! This is a theoretical exercise at the moment. I somehow found Hayes about five years ago, probably after Bachman released the 2EPB while chasing down stub terminals in third rail territory where commuter EMUs would be seen. The simple track arrangement and suburban setting is very appealing to me, and is something I can relate to.

I'll probably hate myself for this, but despite being intensely interested in East Anglia in the very early 60s I've not ordered a 15. My concern is that I just don't have the space or money for a layout large enough to take advantage of a 15.

Can anyone suggest a way I can overcome this unfortunate fear? Maybe more reviews and photos of people's models.

Sorry Jinty, but D3432 has the later pressed bonnet doors without the long straps.

 

The twin-box one you have cover the number ranges 13000/D3000-13244/D3244 (but don't forget to remove all the vertical bonnet door grabs, as none of this number range had those either new or later)

 

Cross-reference that series against the BR Loco Database (which is sortable by depot) and Robert might well be your mum / dad's brother.

 

Tondu got 13188/9/90 (renumbered D3188-90 in the late-50s) from new in Nov 55 and didn't lose them until the depot closed.

 

Looks like those are the only 3 of the strap-hinge/double box examples that were NEW to South or Mid Wales, but there may have been other transfers in, you'll need to trawl through the rest to see.

This is good information - I had decided on March shed's D3065 for my unnumbered plain green Gronk ca. 1961-62ish. By vertical door grabs, do you mean the ones that looks like what you'd grab to open the hood doors? I haven't found photos of my victim as of yet.

I suppose I should get to work mixing a paint match for touchup. I'm not planning on a spectacular amount of weathering above the running gear, so I'd better get the match close.

I should probably hold questions until the book arrives, but now I'm wondering if this line would have been in steam until the end of goods.

So, post war it sounds like there would likely be inbound residential coal and occasional other traffic. Pretty slim pickings!

... and Liverpool to Chicago, ordered Friday at 1330 their time, received middday Monday. No complaints from me.

Try this website - you can manipulate the maps to show track plans for Hayes station in the 1940-60's period, take a bit of work but worth it.

 

Category England & Wales

 

Map series London/TQ

 http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=17&lat=51.3769&lon=0.0088&layers=173&right=BingHyb

Oh, dear - I can see that website taking up a lot of my time. Thank you for the link!

Signal box diagram here ..................

http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/sra/R1598.htm

 

Goods yard closed in 1965 so no, not into the blue era - mostly domestic coal at the end

 

Try the Mitchell book series - it'll be Branch lines in South East London or something like that

 

Thank you! You posted while I was in the middle of updating my post with some additional information about the 1965 end of goods traffic I just found. I was hoping for blue era, but...

And thanks for the tip on a book - it led me to this Middleton title that covers Hayes: https://www.middletonpress.co.uk/books/railways/london-suburban-railways/london-bridge-to-addiscombe.html

I've had an interest in the station at Hayes (Kent) for several years - the simple stub end terminus with slam-door EMUs is very attractive to me. Slightly sleepy, but with the potential for frantic traffic on peak.

The SEMG website has a photograph of the signal box interior including one of the station diagram. There apparently was a loop north of the station. I think I've seen a photo of this track taken from the platform, but don't recall where I saw it. I'm guessing this loop was a layover track for EMU stock since Wikipedia mentions that there was a goods yard south of the station until 1965.

Does anyone know what goods traffic would have been likely in Hayes? What locomotives would have been typically used through the years - any chance of a 73 at the end? (I'm doubting it, they would have been brand new at end of goods traffic assuming the 19 April 1965 date given in Wikipedia is correct.)

Has this line ever been the subject of an article or book that anyone can remember?

Thanks for any insights you can offer!

(Edited with additional information I found after creating the thread)

Speaking as a colonial, this is an interesting and educational thread - come for the Edwardian Railways, stay for the lesson in Yeomanry.

What if you go with a straight platform instead of central with a simple crossover, and put the leftmost point in the unsceniced fiddle yard?

Question: I know Railtec offers transfers for blue locomotives with numbers sized for this model, but where can I find numbers for my solid green late crest? Steve doesn't list them that I can see.

This is really starting to drift off topic, but I've been looking for a project to learn CAD for Shapeways. Now that Shapeways do metal, I wonder if Instanter links would be practical?

Tanks are good for this too as well as Dapol's High Bar open with a suitable tarpaulin.

 

Paul

Agreed - that's why I'm looking at using mostly cement in PCAs (OT for this thread, sorry) for my blue era plank.

Back on topic, wouldn't the highbar's sheet be folded and placed on the wagon floor when empty? Or were they like clayhoods where the sheet remained in place?

My three vans arrived from Hattons last week (ordered Friday, received Monday - I have a hard time getting local things delivered this quickly, stunning service.) I'm very impressed, and have gone ahead with preordering the next four and the Vanwides, plus I am looking for the first run pre-TOPS planked that I missed.

I like the idea of vans for show layouts simply because they can be loaded or empty - the wags that ask about either 1) the hand of God reaching in to empty or load an open or 2) why you're shunting loads away from the same place you just spotted them gets a little old.

Does anyone have a part number and/or source for the lost wax Slaters Instanter links (only the Instanter portion, not the entire coupling?) Slaters haven't responded to my email question.

Sorry to wander off topic Stu, but I wonder what the justification was to build such robust structures for use as field boundaries, they seem to be massively over-engineered for their purpose.

 

I would not have expected that prevailing winds or weather would mean that a normal vegetation based hedge wouldn't survive.

 

I guess that the use of a soil core with stone outer uses less stone than a normal drystone construction would need, so if stone is scarce that would make sense, but I'm not aware of a shortage of stone in Cornwall or Devon!

 

Cheers

 

Al.

Simple - the auto body repair cartel dictates this construction.

One regularly sees loaded centerbeams going around toward Global 3...is there a lumber yard back there or some sort of team track?  I can't tell from Teh Googles Earth...

No centerbeams to be found yesterday, and no obvious customers for them either. I thought there was a place near Del Monte because I've seen beams near there before, but I think it's an interchange instead. Nothing to photograph.

Thanks, Steve!