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  1. Just noticed a photo at Culmstock of the branch train with what appears to be an ex-LNER Thompson 3rd brake in November 1962. I can't read the number but the prefix and suffix are both E. I guess this may possibly have replaced the ex-Barry Railway stock previously used on the line, rather than being a one-off substitution? If so, I wonder if that suggests the prefixes were not necessarily changed straight away when stock was reallocated to foreign regions?

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  2. I understand what you are saying armchair modeller, but I think boundary changes only affected fixed assets such as signal boxes etc.. The LNWR Standedge line was transferred to the Eastern Region more or less at the entrance to Diggle tunnels and so signal boxes and lineside huts of LNWR origins east of there became blue and white. But coaching stock was not transferred. It was supplied on some Hull-Manchester and Newcastle-Liverpool trains by the LMR and on others by the ER.

     

    Many lines in Cambrian and the Borders territory were of mixed origins and it was not unusual to find ex-GWR, LMS and LNER coaches working the branches. But it was probably for operating convenience when working quite complicated diagrams. The coaches would most likely return to their respective regional works for maintenance.

     

    OK - my knowledge of this sort of thing is not great, BUT...

     

    when the WR took over SR lines west of Salisbury they did take over all the stock - and the SR inherited GWR locos etc. on ex-GWR lines east of Salisbury - some panniers ended up banking at Folkestone Harbour.

     

    when the LMR took over all GWR lines in N Wales they took over the stock too.

  3. There is a tendency to think of BR (WR) as the GWR in all but name and livery, but this was not quite true, even in 1954.

     

    When the new regions were set up on the formation of BR, some lines were transferred fairly quickly, based on geographical and operating reasons, along with their stock. Joint lines were given to one region or other very early on, as were some fairly minor invasive lines - like a few LMS lines in South Wales, for example. Later on, of course, much broader regional boundary changes took place in which whole swathes of stock and territory ended up belonging to a foreign power.

     

    Whilst there may have been a tendency to do mutually-advantageous swaps of stock to get things back where they belonged, or scrap foreign stuff,, there must have been some ex-LMS stock inherited by the WR that was not scrapped straight away - and could easily have been reallocated somewhere else on the region - especially if it was in decent order.

     

    It was probably only when the widespread closures of branch lines in the early 1960s and the introduction of DMUs that large culls of stock could easily be carried out.

     

    Might it be that this coach was actually part of WR stock, though not renumbered? It would be interesting to know how much foreign stock was reallocated to the WR in this way and what happened to it.

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