andyman7 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, SimonBoulton said: Yes, I’ve had notification that my preorder ones are in. Just checked the GM site, £75 for a coach that’s €68 in Germany! The guys on that forum always find something wrong with a model Not like RMWeb then... 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 28/01/2022 at 18:37, SimonBoulton said: Yes, I’ve had notification that my pre-order ones are in. Just checked the GM site, £75 for a coach that’s €68 in Germany! The guys on that forum always find something wrong with a model I find the price differentials frustrating. I'd rather place my orders via my local dealer, who gets items through GM. I get a pre-order discount but it is still notably more expensive than purchasing direct from a German / French / Austrian / Polish / Hungarian / Romanian dealer. With one recent Piko sound-fitted loco the price differential was going to be in the region of £140, which would have been more than a Eurostar ticket to go an collect it! I understand that post-Brexit there is more paperwork and that there will be a surcharge for GM to process the extra paperwork, but if it feels excessive I'm going to order direct... Luke 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 12 hours ago, luke_stevens said: I find the price differentials frustrating. I'd rather place my orders via my local dealer, who gets items through GM. I get a pre-order discount but it is still notably more expensive than purchasing direct from a German / French / Austrian / Polish / Hungarian / Romanian dealer. With one recent Piko sound-fitted loco the price differential was going to be in the region of £140, which would have been more than a Eurostar ticket to go an collect it! I understand that post-Brexit there is more paperwork and that there will be a surcharge for GM to process the extra paperwork, but if it feels excessive I'm going to order direct... Luke This is the nub of my beef with buying Continental stuff in the UK - the surcharge added by GM. Back when Local Hobby Shops could bring their own orders into the UK, my LHS owner used to give a very fair discount on the RRP. As soon as GM took over almost all Continental stuff coming into the UK (way before Brexit), such decent pricing went out the window and prices increased in addition to this. An example of an argument I had with them; Me: Why is your price on XYZ item around 15% more than in Germany? GM: Ah, well you see, there’s “import duty”. Me: No, there isn’t, not from another EU country! (Before Brexit). GM: Well, we don’t make any profit buying from your German retailer. Me: You buy it wholesale, from the same place as the German retailer. GM: Goodbye Even counting for the fact that GM do now have to complete additional paperwork and import duties, still does not explain why their prices are so high - except that they’re greedy, exploitive so and so’s. Even were I still in the UK, I would still rather self import and face my own import duties, happily knowing that I am not contributing to their coffers. Rant over, thank you! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDB Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 When I was a student nearly 40 years ago I had a Saturday and summer job in one of the UKs leading HO stockist namely Just Continental, at the time our biggest competition in retail mostly for Roco was Howes and Victors, all three have now gone from the high st (are howes still trading?) this was at a time before the single market and most UK Continental modellers sourced from the UK I can’t remember who was importing Roco at the time it may have been part of Beatties empire but we used to get ours from a German outlet, This is at a time when a Roco loco was £29 , we sourced very little from the uk importers , there was paperwork involved but we often had products before the UK importer. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, TTDB said: I can’t remember who was importing Roco at the time it may have been part of Beatties empire but we used to get ours from a German outlet, It was Riko who were the UK importers (and yes they were part of the Beatties empire). I was occasional Victors staff and we didn't get our Roco from Riko either... Luke Edited February 1, 2022 by luke_stevens spelling correction 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) B-models - Catalog 2022 - Part 1 https://www.trainsdepot.org/manufacturers/pdfs/view/742/b_models_catalog_2022_part_1_pdf SNCB 51 on cover but just wagons in the brochure... Edited February 2, 2022 by luke_stevens addition 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted February 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2022 I think Jaegerndorfer will get some money this year. Not that I need them, but I collect old Austrian locos... Had some very nice Klein Modellbahn Oldtimers, but all died the Mazak-rot death. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neils WRX Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 hours ago, luke_stevens said: B-models - Catalog 2022 - Part 1 https://www.trainsdepot.org/manufacturers/pdfs/view/742/b_models_catalog_2022_part_1_pdf SNCB 51 on cover but just wagons in the brochure... Nothing about 51’s on their website :-( Will keep a watch on this. Do quite like my Mehano 51’s especially the custom sounds. Thanks, Neil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Vecchio said: Had some very nice Klein Modellbahn Oldtimers, but all died the Mazak-rot death. I had the same problem. Back in 03 (?) when I was in Venna I found that Klein Modellbahn would repair them IF you brought them into one of their shops. I asked the chap behind the counter whether this could be done for non-Austrian customers and he had a "hadn't-thought-of-that" look on his face. By the time I was next in Vienna the shops were all going/gone. Sad. Luke 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedepot Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 hi neil yes same! when i saw the b models catalogue cover picture i thought right I'm buying that... but inside it was just a few wagons.... what a let down! cheers tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just been back to the Van Biervliet website (www.vanbiervliet.com) and saw this image. So it looks as if we are getting a 51 after all Luke 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted February 8, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 23:08, luke_stevens said: I had the same problem. Back in 03 (?) when I was in Venna I found that Klein Modellbahn would repair them IF you brought them into one of their shops. I asked the chap behind the counter whether this could be done for non-Austrian customers and he had a "hadn't-thought-of-that" look on his face. By the time I was next in Vienna the shops were all going/gone. Sad. Luke At one point — after the closure of the company — the former owner made available brass replacement chassis for at least some of the affected models. The details appeared in a past issue of the Austrian Railway Group Journal, though I don't know how long ago this was. Note that PDFs of all Austrian Railway Group Journals — back to number 1 — are available online to members. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neils WRX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Going off topic, a chap in Belgium is producing replacement chassis and DCC conversion for the Klein Modellbahn class 60’s as they suffered Zinc Rot. I have one on my to do pile!! I have his details if anyone is interested. Stay safe, Neil 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Maltazer Posted March 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2022 Finally, ACME... https://www.trainsdepot.org/manufacturers/pdfs/view/764/a_c_m_e_anonima_costruzioni_modellistiche_esatte_catalog_2022_pdf Unfortunately the only thing I want from this lot (1978R baggage coach in MDVC livery) is only available in a pack with two other coaches and an E646 that I already own :-( 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Some limited new items from Mabar including the ACME Traxx being issued as three Spanish versions. This model was previously released under the Electrotren brand. https://mabar.es/es/c-55-0-0/Novedades-H0-2022/ https://mabar.es/es/c-56-0-0/Novedades-N-2022/ Most of the above except the Traxx seems to have been previously announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 02/02/2022 at 15:44, luke_stevens said: B-models - Catalog 2022 - Part 1 https://www.trainsdepot.org/manufacturers/pdfs/view/742/b_models_catalog_2022_part_1_pdf SNCB 51 on cover but just wagons in the brochure... And here is the link to the Cl51 new items leaflet https://www.trainsdepot.org/manufacturers/pdfs/download/767/b_models_sncb_diesel_51_pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Have just seen this posted for Piko: Now if you're going to do the coaches for the national version, then the international version can't be far behind. And hopefully the SNCB cl 11 fill follow, with the rest of the family Luke 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTDB Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 I’m sure those NS coaches will sell well at that price, I’ve not seen the LS models for a while and when you do they are very expensive 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBoulton Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Piko have produced some excellent coach models recently too so there should be no problem with the quality of these NS ones 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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