Swedish Wonderings

Patrick SPF · February 9, 2022

You are quite correct, I don't think there was an E1 class. What it does prove is that I should not be typing when tired!

Patrick SPF · February 10, 2022

Moving on to 2010 I had a family tour of central Sweden which included visiting a number of railway museums where plenty of digital photos were taken. This included a number of detail photos for modelling purposes - I will post them if people are interested..

The first train was found at Sunne - Y31 1420

The local youth hostel where we were staying had an old general store as part of the buildings

The following day there was a visit to the Hagfors industrial landscape

Some internal user wagons

Then on to the Hagfors railway museum, which covers the former Nordmark-Klarälvens Järnvägar (NKlJ) an electrified 891mm gauge system owned by Uddeholm AB (there was some standard gauge operated by SJ as a contractor before being transferred to Banverket at some point after the narrow gauge was removed in 1983 ). The rest of the network was closed down over a number of years with the end coming in 1991. The section Hagfors-Stjärnsfors still exists and is used for bicycle drasine hire.

The NKLJ had two steam inspection drasines - number 1 (Lund 1900) survives

AEG electric No33 from 1920

Edited April 7, 2022 by Patrick SPF
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31A · February 11, 2022

12 hours ago, Patrick SPF said:

This included a number of detail photos for modelling purposes - I will post them if people are interested..

Yes please, keep 'em coming! Sweden's not a place I know much about, only been there once briefly, but it's all good stuff....

EddieB · February 11, 2022

I hope Patrick won't mind my posting it here - but for anyone tempted to visit Sweden after seeing these pictures, there's a series of events culminating in a final steam run on the famous Iron Ore Railway (Malmbanan) this Summer:

https://www.jarnvagsmuseet.se/tagresor/aktuella-resor/historiska-malmtag-pa-malmbanan

Patrick SPF · February 12, 2022

On 11/02/2022 at 17:22, EddieB said:

I hope Patrick won't mind my posting it here - but for anyone tempted to visit Sweden after seeing these pictures, there's a series of events culminating in a final steam run on the famous Iron Ore Railway (Malmbanan) this Summer:

https://www.jarnvagsmuseet.se/tagresor/aktuella-resor/historiska-malmtag-pa-malmbanan

No but is a shame that they cannot run the historic locos up there in future..

Patrick SPF · February 12, 2022

Continuing on in the Hagfors museum here is No 102 "Munkfors" ASEA 1960 - as you can see space was somewhat limited

0-4-2T No 1 "Ua" (Henry Hughes 1874 with the amended ab and rear axle added around 1900) She is fitted with a turbine spark arrestor on the chimney

Another view of No 33 from the front this time she is a 1-C-1 loco. I am not sure about the dummy leaning against the loco

No 5 "Lovisa Tranæa" (0-6-2T Avonside 1875)

No 7 "Hagfors" 0-6-2T NOHAB 1883, the second photo shows that some work is needed on her

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EddieB · February 12, 2022

I think you must have been unlucky to have found no. 102 cramped for space - here's a view from 2006 when my biggest concern was the colour balance of shooting on daylight film under fluorescent light - yet another plus point for digital cameras!

Patrick SPF · February 13, 2022

Uddeholmaren - 3 car EMU (units 11,21 & 13 class Y0ap Hilding Carlsson 1956 stored from the end of traffic in 1964

No 5and 33

Three axle tank wagon with a bogie tank behind the them is a standard gauge "standard G" on a transporter wagon

Preserved stake wagon and a charcoal wagon

Class Z4p shunter hiding in the roundhouse

Two generations of ore wagon

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Patrick SPF · February 14, 2022

Overhead line car No4 - a home-built vehicle on early DMU bogies but unpowered

Closed van No 639 under repair the loading plate says 40 men or 8 horses

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Patrick SPF · February 18, 2022

A couple of days later including some "interesting" driving through a set of roadworks I had a chance to visit the TGOJ Museum at Grängesberg.

An old coach from one of the TGOJ's constituents the Örebro - Köping Railway (originally the Köping - Hults Railway which opened in mid 1856).

A trio of diesels - left to right a SJ class V3 No 43, TGOJ Z1 No 22 (Deutz 1955), TGOJ Z4 (SJ class Z43) No 9 (KVAB 1941)

More shunters, TGOJ Z5 No 33 (SJ class Z64)(Deutz 1955), TGOJ Z3 No5 (KVAB 1935)

Another view of Numbers 33 & 5 with GBBJ Z6 No1 (H&S Germany 1964)

Ex SJ drasine and a couple of rail-bikes hiding in the yard

A closer view of the railbike

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Patrick SPF · February 19, 2022

Continuing back down the siding

There were some typical TGOG ore opens (the un-loader was a wagon tipper), of 2 generations

Then some stake wagons and a low sided open ballast wagon

OFWJ 367 a stake wagon of class NN, note no brakes fitted

TGOJ stake wagon of class Ns No 4787, again unbraked

OFWJ open No 1727 pf class Pm - with air brakes!

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Baldwin30762 · February 19, 2022

Hi Patrick

Just found this thread, so forgive me if you have already answered it does anyone following this thread have any details about the Swedish 3ft gauge railways, I have some details of the Jadraas-Tallas Swedish Mallet Built Atlas, Stockholm 1910 0-6-6-0 Tender loco, however I am thinking in terms of having a couple of coaches for the loco to pull, but I don't have any details of any Swedish 3ft gauge rolling stock in OO/HO Scale, any help given would be most welcome.

Colin Rainsbury

Patrick SPF · February 19, 2022

Hi yes there are some kits, Worsley works do some SRJ coaches
http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/NG/NG_Sweden.htm

Also Rimbo Grande http://rimbogrande.se/index.php?route=product/category&path=62

Dekaler & Etsat https://www.byggsvenskt.nu/

Skultorps Vagn & Lok verkstad https://www.svlv.se/

Also you could look at the Smalspårigt (Swedish Narrowgauge Society) website

There is a good book of drawings but finding a copy for sale in the UK may be difficult, there was a copy in the library system some years ago but I suspect it has been disposed of.

Baldwin30762 · February 19, 2022

Hi Patrick thanks, do you happen to have the title of the book so I can search either Abe books or Amazon for one if they every come up

Yes I have looked at the Worsley kits, but they are not the type I am looking for right now, it is more like the 891mm gauge teak timber bogies stock that I would like to find the details of, I am thinking in terms of say two or three different styles, I am not sure if you guys have a brake / open coach like we have over here in the UK, or do you normally run a brake van as a separate vehicle?

Colin

Patrick SPF · February 20, 2022

Swedish passenger services if loco hauled did have a vehicle for parcels and baggage, frequently a van with a stove and a workstation for the conductor on the train

The book on the rolling stock is: Svensson, Jan-Olov (1992). En beskrivning av den rullande materielen vid Dala-Ockelbo-Norrsundets järnväg : 1876-1970

Patrick SPF · February 20, 2022

I took a number of detail photos of TGOJ 4787 for modelling purposes

Slightly ahead of ourselves a photo of FLJ G1 No 209 - a van with a small coupe for the guard or brakeman

Next time - exploring the roundhouse

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Patrick SPF · February 21, 2022

In side the loco shed the first thing I looked at was the famous inspection car No3 a Volvo PV831 from 1953

It has been available in model form, currently only as a taxi

Behind No3 was the Sharp Stewart 0-4-2 (OFWJ 9) from 1876

Also 0-8-0 No 49 of class M3 (NOHAB 1017)

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Patrick SPF · February 22, 2022

A few photos of the M3t class steam turbines (they are currently restoring No 71 to working order) The roundhouse was not the best place to try and take photos.

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jamie92208 · February 23, 2022

That is fascinating. I'd no ideacthat such locos still existed. It will be great to see it runnjng and also very interesting to hear what it sounds like when running. Does it have some sort of forced draught for the exhaust or does it just rely on the turbine exhaust creating a smokebox vacumn.

Jamie

February 23, 2022

20 minutes ago, jamie92208 said:

That is fascinating. I'd no ideacthat such locos still existed. It will be great to see it runnjng and also very interesting to hear what it sounds like when running. Does it have some sort of forced draught for the exhaust or does it just rely on the turbine exhaust creating a smokebox vacumn.

Jamie

A good video of 71 here from a few years ago. No exhaust noise as such, but it does look like the turbine exhausts out of the chimney. No idea if that's enough to create a decent draught in the firebox though.

EddieB · February 23, 2022

Here's a section of the original Nohab design for the TGOJ turbine locos. I must confess that it's hard to follow the steam flow, but it appears that steam is drawn into the turbine through piping that runs through the smokebox, then exhausts into the smokebox and out of the chimney, creating a draught.