Large Logo class 37 transfers

[mattrose]

Hi,

 

I am wondering if I was to buy

"Class 37/4 37401 "MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS " BR BLUE Large Logo"

 

How could I use transfers to renumber it? And how could I add the orange lines to it?

 

(Not my photo)

Edited September 8, 2017 by mattrose

[Chris56057]

You could try somewhere like Fox Transfers - https://fox-transfers.co.uk/transfers?model_product=1181&scale=2235&transfer_company=2298&transfer_model_type=2169&transfer_period=2257

[GordonC]

Its not something I've ever tried, but I gather a 'bow pen' can be used for the orange lining

[BR Blue]

You first need to remove the exiting numbers and the name. Fortunately this is much easier on Bachmann models. Fox, as stated, or Railtec do suitable transfers. Orange stripes from transfers can be tricky on some areas of locos. Check the exact positions of your choosen loco from photos.

[GordonC]

I didn't get on very well with orange line transfers, very awkward depending on where they go round and easy to damage with even careful handling of the models

[tractor_37260]

Hi,

 

I am wondering if I was to buy

"Class 37/4 37401 "MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS " BR BLUE Large Logo"

 

How could I use transfers to renumber it? And how could I add the orange lines to it?

 

(Not my photo)

32-377A-500x500.jpg

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

The existing names and numbers can be removed with careful use of either T-Cut or Brasso on a cotton bud. New transfer No's arrows etc are available from various suppliers. As a beginner to changing loco identities, I'd suggest using water slide transfers from the likes of Rail-Tech or Fox. Orange cant rail lining cab be applied again with transfers, but it's a very tricky and delicate task to get a good result - just some patience and trial and error etc.

When complete, the new transfers require to be sealed with a coat of varnish to avoid damage when handling etc

 

http://www.railtec-models.com/index.php

 

https://fox-transfers.co.uk/

Edited September 11, 2017 by tractor_37260

[Phil Mc]

I have used a bow pen, but tend to stick to transfers now.

I used to try using long lengths of line in one go, but it caused no end of grief, so now just use pieces approx. 2" in length and slightly overlap them. You can't see the joints after varnishing (well I can't anyway!!)

I do the more awkward areas first, usually around the cabs, then work my way to the middle, alternating from one side to the other, to give a bit extra drying time for each piece of transfer.

HTH.

 

Cheers,

Phil.

[The Black Hat]

Hi,

 

I am wondering if I was to buy

"Class 37/4 37401 "MARY QUEEN OF SCOTS " BR BLUE Large Logo"

 

How could I use transfers to renumber it? And how could I add the orange lines to it?

 

(Not my photo)

32-377A-500x500.jpg

 

Get the moderators to shift this topic over to the RTR Modifying and Detailing area of the forum and people will be happy to give you advice and tell you how to do it.

 

If its experience you need and have questions, you can ask what you want and we can all reply so its specific to what you want. Your discussion can then be your own, rather than having to be about the Bachmann 37 so long as its here. Then you can talk through what your thinking and we can help while in the end celebrate when you post your results and showcase what you model as you develop in ability and confidence.

[cal.n]

What 37 do you plan to turn her into? Railtec do renumbering packs for all the DRS owned Large Logo 37s with names if appropriate (with the cantrail lines)

[37409]

Check for photos of the prototype because most, if not all, of the /4's didn't originally come with orange lines. Depending on what timeframe you're modelling you might not need them, I think it was late 1988 when the orange cantrail stripes started to be added.

[mattrose]

I'm trying to model 37403 in large logo, as it is now.

Edited September 11, 2017 by mattrose

[Andrew F]

As you haven't bought that model yet, what about buying a 37/4 model that already has the orange cantrail on?

[mattrose]

I have already bought the loco. 

[cal.n]

In that case, you will need this:

 

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2450

 

It is just the numbers and new 3D decal nameplate to allow you to renumber and rename any large logo 37.

 

If she is the modern DRS owned machine with cantrail lines, you will need these:

 

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2074

 

and as with any modern loco, she is plastered with these:

 

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=1043

 

Two on her nose and one beside the top of each cab door as seen here.

 

As mentioned above and in various other threads on the subject, remove the originals with a small about of T-cut on a cotton bud slowly.

 

Good choice of loco and good luck

[railtec-models]

The packs suggested by cal.n are a good starting point and may well give you what you need. The style of large logo numbers as seen in the packs are unique to this loco. When DRS approached us a couple of years ago to do the vinyls that are currently carried by 403, they were keen to replicate the hand-painted style numbers as applied by Eastfield (or was it Glasgow Works - I can never remember) in the 80s - which is what we did. So if you opt for one of those packs you can be certain you're getting the real thing in miniature

[mattrose]

I have looked at your 'Orange Cantrail Lining (285mm lengths)

 

Does anyone make small lamp hooks like '403 has on either side of the headboard?

 

Photo Cred: Phil Mc

[tractor_37260]

I have looked at your 'Orange Cantrail Lining (285mm lengths)

 

Does anyone make small lamp hooks like '403 has on either side of the headboard?

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Photo Cred: Phil Mc

 

Shawplan supplies these -  part No  DP45-09LW

 

http://www.shawplan.com/fittings.htm

[mattrose]

What methods do people recommend to paint the hooks as a similar colour to the yellow on the 37? and what colour grades or brands do people suggest?

 

I presume I'd need to buy both of these for the two types of hook that 37403 has

 

DP45-0924 Lamp Brackets (Round & Square ended)

DP45-09LW8 'L' Shaped Western Region Lamp Brackets for Classes 37/42/43 & 52A4mm

(http://www.shawplan.com/fittings.htm)

 

(My photo)

[Phil Mc]

The 2 lower brackets (the White ones in your pic) are already on the model IIRC, so it's just the Western region style you'll need, although these are the type of detailing parts that it's handy to have in a stash, they always come in useful somewhere.

Like the top bracket on my 37401, which came from a Vitrains detailing pack !

The lack of recessed MW socket next to the headlight, no top bracket, plus the addition of WR lampbrackets, give 403 quite a different 'face' compared to 401.

 

Cheers,

Phil.

[mattrose]

How did you paint the headlamp hooks?

 

The two western ones in yellow and the lower ones in white.

[tractor_37260]

How did you paint the headlamp hooks?

 

The two western ones in yellow and the lower ones in white.

 

See the PM (personal mail) I sent you - on the header at the very top of this page, click on the envelope with the little Red number to read/reply etc

[mattrose]

So I have received the 37 and ran it in, fitted DCC chip and checked the sound. However, we cannot seem to get the roof to fix down.

 

We have removed the fan surround in the roof of the 37 leaving the fan held in place with a piece of insulation tape. The two lugs on either end of the speaker have been removed. The roof will come down over the model but it won't get fully down and clipped in secure. About a 5mm gap.

[mattrose]

Sorted!

 

Removed the speaker from its casing and so the body now fits down and secures.

[mattrose]

Speaker now back in the casing but the casing has been cut lower, fan screw mounts made shorter and the casing made airtight. It is about 10 times clearer and louder now.