RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted January 18, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2011 HI, well that was easy enough ( famous last words ) or so it seamed. cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 18, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2011 Ok, let's finish adding the routes for 104, 105, 106 and 107 signals (but no shunt on 107 yet) Remember, all that's needed is to record the route by clicking on the start and end, RR will show the route it's using. Two routes, "operated" to check all is Ok There should now be 4 routes, all of which will work when clicked on. Notice how the points underneath the routes are changed without us having to do anything. Every/Any one got this far ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted January 18, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2011 HI Beast, with you up to now. It has to be said i am learning loads and i mean loads so i would just like to say thank you very much for taking the time to do this for everyone on here cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 18, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2011 It has to be said i am learning loads and i mean loads so i would just like to say thank you very much for taking the time to do this for everyone on here Thanks Simon - it starts getting harder very soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audley Road Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 There should now be 4 routes, all of which will work when clicked on. Notice how the points underneath the routes are changed without us having to do anything. Every/Any one got this far ? All present and correct. I added some other routes too I hope I got them right - we'll see. Thanks for everything so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mezzoman253 Posted January 18, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2011 Steep learning curve, but lots of retries, PC good at that, and got there in the end. Learning lots along the way. Now have to explain to SWMBO what I've been doing for the last 2 hours. Thanks, Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 20, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2011 Ask away if you need assistance, it will get a lot more complicated ! Ok, time to get something useful happening. We want the signals to clear when we set a route, so we will get them to (for the main signals) go to yellow when we clear the route, and red when we reset it. Select the route and then open properties, go to operations and add the signal, click it to yellow, remove the lock setting. Setting the yellow - the red is similar. Testing the operation I've added the yellow aspects for 104, 105 and 107 to complete this - for now. Don't worry about aspect control yet, we will step to green shortly. Is everybody happy with the aspect sequence for colour lights ? Remember PM me if you want the latest RailRoad lockings, I don't keep versions so you need to be quick if you want the current one ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audley Road Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Just in case anyone is wondering.... To set the red aspect you need to select the other operating state in the pull down menu in the operations tab. There is a highlighted and a non-highlighted route. The highlighted route is the one you set yellow and remove lock. The non-highlighted is the one you set the signal to red. Hope that helps... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 20, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2011 Just in case anyone is wondering.... To set the red aspect you need to select the other operating state in the pull down menu in the operations tab. There is a highlighted and a non-highlighted route. The highlighted route is the one you set yellow and remove lock. The non-highlighted is the one you set the signal to red. Hope that helps... Spot on Andrew, I'm deliberately leaving things for you lot to discover, best way to learn (imho), I will of course assist if anyone gets stuck and wants to ask. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 21, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2011 I have added a page to the WFRM website and will put versions of the lockings there, so they can be downloaded at any time, and at least a partial history is maintained Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiddle Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Thanksfor making them accessible but, as you suspected, unfortunately they can't be opened by us cheapskates with SIlver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 21, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21, 2011 Thanksfor making them accessible but, as you suspected, unfortunately they can't be opened by us cheapskates with SIlver Are you licensed for Silver ? If not then download the Gold for now, then at least you can see what options it gives. This aspect (pardon the pun) of RailRoad really annoys me, they've made custom images part of the Gold package which means if you aren't using a scheme that fits with their images (like British) you have to "Go for Gold" or suffer. We were stuffed the same way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiddle Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Fully paid up member for Silver! As you suggest, I can download Gold as a demo if necessary, but so far everything you have asked us to do in the lessons works OK in Silver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted January 25, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is everybody happy with the aspect sequence for colour lights ? HI, finaly caught up with this due to work Might be worth listing the sequence for those that dont know or new to this. Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 25, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2011 Welcome back "badge man" I will do so and will continue with this tomorrow evening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted January 25, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2011 Welcome back "badge man" I will do so and will continue with this tomorrow evening. cheers Dave, The badge was only cause we nearly killed a blue peter presenter i say nearly B) all in the name of tv of course :lol: :lol: cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audley Road Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 This aspect (pardon the pun) of RailRoad really annoys me, they've made custom images part of the Gold package which means if you aren't using a scheme that fits with their images (like British) you have to "Go for Gold" or suffer. We were stuffed the same way I just looked up the price for Gold and nearly fell off my chair. But we'll ignore that and continue with the lesson - look forward to the next installment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 26, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 26, 2011 Ok, time for the next lesson. Aspect changing. For those who don't know the normal 3-aspect sequence of a colour light is Red -> Yellow -> Green Red = stop, Yellow = next signal at Red, Green = next signal at Green or Yellow. For this lesson I am concentrating on signal 106, it's a nice plain signal so will do for training purposes. Hopefully you all have a diagram similar to mine above, and each time you click on the routes the various signals clear ? I'm concentrating on 104, 105, 106 and 107 signals and routes. Here is a description of what we are going to do. When we click the route button on 106, set the route and clear the signal to yellow. Wehn we click the route button on 105, set the route and clear the signal to yellow, if signal 106 is showing yellow then it should step up to green. So how do we acheive this ? various ways are available but I'm going to dive straight in and use the flagman, an incredibly powerful item. The flagman is triggered when something happens, he can have conditions applied and he can perform operations, the flagman is the most powerful item within RR. Translating the description it becomes, when we click route 105 and the signal clears to yellow, trigger a flagman to change the aspect of signal 106. Find him on the menu and add one, I normally group all my aspect control flagmen together but for a simple example like this I will put them geographically. Give him a meaningful name - I use fmDescription when Description is a brief summary of his scope, in this case Green106 Next we add the trigger, that is when the trigger happens the flagman will react, for this flagman its 105 signal changing to yellow, add that as a trigger Now what do we want him to do for us ? (for now the condition tab won't be used, but we will return to it later) When the flagman has waved at us "triggered" we want 106 to go to green, make sure the operating state is highlighted (full colour), in the left hand drop down, select signals, and in the lower pane double click s106 to move it over to the operations pane, the signal will probably be on red so click it to change it to the correct aspect. For completeness, when the flagman is not triggered we can reset the aspect to yellow, this covers the possibility of s105 being returned to danger - change the operating state and add 106 to yellow, remember to make sure it's yellow ! Click ok and give it a go. An important thing to remember about flagman is the relaxed state (the one above which returns it to yellow) only does it's operations when it drops from triggered to not triggered. i.e. it does not automatically set the signal to yellow at the start of the session - does this bit make sense ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mr.S.corn78 Posted January 27, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hi, see what you mean about it getting harder. Had me a bit confused till i re-read the bottom line on your post. I was just clicking the r105 and not the r106 as well I know this may be jumping ahead but i'm guessing that you could set the fmGreen106 to highlight the route from s106 throught to s105???? or am i wrong?? cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 27, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2011 I know this may be jumping ahead but i'm guessing that you could set the fmGreen106 to highlight the route from s106 throught to s105???? or am i wrong?? You're not wrong but I use the route to trigger / lock everything else - and it will soon become apparent why The next stage will be to add a simple button to toggle the auto 903 signal, then we can add the aspect control to the 3 parallel signals, and then ... solve the problems. I'll leave it for a day or so to see if any questions appear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audley Road Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I'll leave it for a day or so to see if any questions appear. That all works fine, but if I leave the route from 105 set, and toggle the route from 106 to 105 off then back on it comes on as yellow not green. Is this right and is this something that gets sorted out further along the lesson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiddle Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Mine comes on as red! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 27, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2011 That all works fine, but if I leave the route from 105 set, and toggle the route from 106 to 105 off then back on it comes on as yellow not green. Is this right and is this something that gets sorted out further along the lesson? Indeed - that's one of the issues to resolve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 27, 2011 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27, 2011 Mine comes on as red! Under what circumstances David ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiddle Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Hi This is the sequence I am gettting. No route selected - s105 red and s106 yellow - flagman black Route 105 selected - s105 yellow and s106 green - flagman red Route 105 and r106 selected - s105 yellow and s106 yellow - flagman red Deselect only r106 - s105 yellow and s106 red - flagman red Deselect both r105 and r106 - s105 red and s106 yellow - flagman black Select only r106 - s105 red and s106 yellow - flagman black Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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