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It's 1964, and thanks to Derby Sulzers for this snippet:

 

"Despite its declining importance the Waverley route gained a new train, the thrice weekly Kings Norton - Bathgate & return car carrier, diagrammed for Peaks, but occasionally worked by Saltley Type 2's. This train often carried as many as one hundred cars with a journey time of twelve hours. A car carrier working over the S&C early in December had several Vauxhall cars blown off the train as it crossed Ribblehead viaduct, the strong gales causing many other delays as well."

 

I'll do an allocation analysis of the so far reported 43 Class 25s to traverse the Waverley Route over on my Best of British Haymarket Diesels blog at some early future stage.

 

I got this snippet from a forestry worker who lodged with a lady at Kershopefoot (or is it Kershope Foot?) in the later 1960s "Mrs ***** used to pass the time by counting the number of cars on the car trains. Her record was 140."

 

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I understand Kershope timber was being loaded at The Holm in those later days. Does anyone have any ideas what kind of vehicles were used to convey it and where it went on departure? I suspect the route didn't last long enough to receive Timber Ps.

 

Dave.

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Failed loco and left on the spur until a replacement could be brought in?

V2 seems a bit over the top for the load.

The interesting bit is what happens/takes over at Carlisle!

A bit off route but Oxwellmains would make a good modern layout. Nuclear flasks, cement wagons and a host of industrial shunters in varying degrees of decay. Oh, and a rather large digger.

Bernard

 

 

 

 

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Surprisingly simple really. Riccarton North Box had closed and so there was no longer a physical connection at the north end of the station. Hence the goods couldn't be put into what was left of the up yard and had to go down the counties to get out of the way. There was no alternative.

 

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I understand Kershope timber was being loaded at The Holm in those later days. Does anyone have any ideas what kind of vehicles were used to convey it and where it went on departure? I suspect the route didn't last long enough to receive Timber Ps.

 

Dave.

I'm pretty certain Timber Ps were confined to the WHR; timber elsewhere (and I don't think there was much 'raw' timber traffic by then) would have been on Bogie Bolsters, for long trunks, or in ordinary opens for short lengths. BR had built 'Timber' wagons in the early 1960s, but they were intended for finished timber and baled pulp.

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Are you ready for the answer?

 

Surprisingly simple really. Riccarton North Box had closed and so there was no longer a physical connection at the north end of the station. Hence the goods couldn't be put into what was left of the up yard and had to go down the counties to get out of the way. There was no alternative.

 

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Riccarton North S.B. closed 15th April 1959.

 

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Guest Max Stafford

I saw a bit of the action at Maschen Yard (Hamburg) a couple of years ago. You'd be amazed at the LWB bogie vehicles they were shoving over the hump!

 

Dave.

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Here's a first - I think - for us, in the shape of a hump. This time at Millerhill. Surely that Gresley (?) full brake isn't going over...?

 

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36794

Well if it didn't say 'Not To Be Hump Shunted' on it who was to blame the yard staff? (and how the 'eck could you Form 1 the b*ggers :butcher: )

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Oh don't get me started on pigeon vans!

 

Here's Prince P, and possibly the best new aspect of Riccarton (North) SB that we've had in a while. It's 1963:

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36829

 

...and please forgive me for piggy-backing another Clayton-Cottage combo onto this post:

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36823

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Have we had THIS before? No apologies if we have, it's awesome:

http://www.flickr.co...157608177268125

 

44792 climbs over Bridge 262 on 25th February '67, surely into the last hundred steam workings seen on the route:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2967472658/in/set-72157608177268125/

 

D368 on the same date, location unclear, we may have had this before but no apologies tendered, folks:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2967485656/in/set-72157608177268125/

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Roy, that is truly superb. A virtually untapped viewpoint as well! Did you take any more shots of this nature further down Liddesdale? I would love to see shots of the section between Penton and The Holm as viewed from the opposite bank; there must have been some wonderful photographic potential there!

 

Dave.

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