62440 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 It's 1964, and thanks to Derby Sulzers for this snippet: "Despite its declining importance the Waverley route gained a new train, the thrice weekly Kings Norton - Bathgate & return car carrier, diagrammed for Peaks, but occasionally worked by Saltley Type 2's. This train often carried as many as one hundred cars with a journey time of twelve hours. A car carrier working over the S&C early in December had several Vauxhall cars blown off the train as it crossed Ribblehead viaduct, the strong gales causing many other delays as well." I'll do an allocation analysis of the so far reported 43 Class 25s to traverse the Waverley Route over on my Best of British Haymarket Diesels blog at some early future stage. I got this snippet from a forestry worker who lodged with a lady at Kershopefoot (or is it Kershope Foot?) in the later 1960s "Mrs ***** used to pass the time by counting the number of cars on the car trains. Her record was 140." Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I understand Kershope timber was being loaded at The Holm in those later days. Does anyone have any ideas what kind of vehicles were used to convey it and where it went on departure? I suspect the route didn't last long enough to receive Timber Ps. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Failed loco and left on the spur until a replacement could be brought in? V2 seems a bit over the top for the load. The interesting bit is what happens/takes over at Carlisle! A bit off route but Oxwellmains would make a good modern layout. Nuclear flasks, cement wagons and a host of industrial shunters in varying degrees of decay. Oh, and a rather large digger. Bernard Are you ready for the answer? Surprisingly simple really. Riccarton North Box had closed and so there was no longer a physical connection at the north end of the station. Hence the goods couldn't be put into what was left of the up yard and had to go down the counties to get out of the way. There was no alternative. roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I understand Kershope timber was being loaded at The Holm in those later days. Does anyone have any ideas what kind of vehicles were used to convey it and where it went on departure? I suspect the route didn't last long enough to receive Timber Ps. Dave. I'm pretty certain Timber Ps were confined to the WHR; timber elsewhere (and I don't think there was much 'raw' timber traffic by then) would have been on Bogie Bolsters, for long trunks, or in ordinary opens for short lengths. BR had built 'Timber' wagons in the early 1960s, but they were intended for finished timber and baled pulp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Are you ready for the answer? Surprisingly simple really. Riccarton North Box had closed and so there was no longer a physical connection at the north end of the station. Hence the goods couldn't be put into what was left of the up yard and had to go down the counties to get out of the way. There was no alternative. roygraham Riccarton North S.B. closed 15th April 1959. roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Not the WR proper, or at all, but I just have to share this link for devotees of the lesser spotted L.G.W cottage: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36594 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Not the WR proper, or at all, but I just have to share this link for devotees of the lesser spotted L.G.W cottage: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36594 They're in better fettle than the Freightliner box to their right.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Gives an indication of the robustness of those old gals. Some fantastic weathering too - bet the crew in the loading area had a few chest problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 One freight flow that didn't get through, at least not on the right day. roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! Wonder how long it took the crew to reach Shankend station, assuming that's where they decamped to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 No, the train crew stayed overnight at Riccarton. roygraham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Peter Brock photographed this during the 'rescue mission'too. 60535, sat here for a good few days! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerhillboy Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Not the WR proper, or at all, but I just have to share this link for devotees of the lesser spotted L.G.W cottage: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36594 Nice picture, wot no wheel lathe! Interesting to see the currently doomed Porty High School on the horizon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Here's a first - I think - for us, in the shape of a hump. This time at Millerhill. Surely that Gresley (?) full brake isn't going over...? http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36794 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I saw a bit of the action at Maschen Yard (Hamburg) a couple of years ago. You'd be amazed at the LWB bogie vehicles they were shoving over the hump! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 13, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2011 Here's a first - I think - for us, in the shape of a hump. This time at Millerhill. Surely that Gresley (?) full brake isn't going over...? http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36794 Well if it didn't say 'Not To Be Hump Shunted' on it who was to blame the yard staff? (and how the 'eck could you Form 1 the b*ggers ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Got me thinking though - how the retarders cope with those - give each bogie a squeeze on the way past? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveArkley Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Got me thinking though - how the retarders cope with those - give each bogie a squeeze on the way past? Thats how they used to do bogie vehicles at Tees Yard when I was a nipper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 That's getting close to being posted in the wrong part of the forum. There is a seperate thread for Grounded Vans. Just hope it is not full of pigeons. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Oh don't get me started on pigeon vans! Here's Prince P, and possibly the best new aspect of Riccarton (North) SB that we've had in a while. It's 1963: http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=36829 ...and please forgive me for piggy-backing another Clayton-Cottage combo onto this post: http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=36823 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Here's Prince P, and possibly the best new aspect of Riccarton (North) SB that we've had in a while. It's 1963: The train is interesting but even better is a good view of another signal box with the upper storey brickwork. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I've reached my quota of positive votes for the day, but you're right - wasn't that a timely upload from the RailScot lads! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Have we had THIS before? No apologies if we have, it's awesome: http://www.flickr.co...157608177268125 44792 climbs over Bridge 262 on 25th February '67, surely into the last hundred steam workings seen on the route: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2967472658/in/set-72157608177268125/ D368 on the same date, location unclear, we may have had this before but no apologies tendered, folks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/16236990@N08/2967485656/in/set-72157608177268125/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roygraham Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Just to prove I didn't only take photo's of bridges. 60057 'Ormonde' races through Copshaw trying to storm Whitrope Bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Roy, that is truly superb. A virtually untapped viewpoint as well! Did you take any more shots of this nature further down Liddesdale? I would love to see shots of the section between Penton and The Holm as viewed from the opposite bank; there must have been some wonderful photographic potential there! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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