RMweb Premium Shropshire Lad Posted March 13, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hi all I'm running a Lenz LZV100 powered by a TR100 Transformer. I'm adding a LV102 Booster to increase the available power. I have two 15v 5 amp transformers available, is there any advantage/disadvantage with using a transformer for each? Lenz show both running from one transformer in their wiring diagram but that seems counter intuitive to me. Thanks in advance Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I feel sure that the booster won't increase the available power unless you give it a separate transformer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 13, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 13, 2012 Hi all I'm running a Lenz LZV100 powered by a TR100 Transformer. I'm adding a LV102 Booster to increase the available power. I have two 15v 5 amp transformers available, is there any advantage/disadvantage with using a transformer for each? Lenz show both running from one transformer in their wiring diagram but that seems counter intuitive to me. Thanks in advance Colin I have just looked. It shows separate transformers for each unit. http://www.digital-plus.de/e/digitalplus-verstaerker-lv102.php Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 ..... is there any advantage/disadvantage with using a transformer for each? Lenz show both running from one transformer in their wiring diagram but that seems counter intuitive to me. I have just looked. It shows separate transformers for each unit. http://www.digital-p...erker-lv102.php Keith Colin, you must use a separate power supply (transformer) for each Power Station (Booster). Lenz state this clearly and AFAIA show it in all their wiring diagrams. ....I'm adding a LV102 Booster to increase the available power...... I feel sure that the booster won't increase the available power unless you give it a separate transformer. Personally I'd be a little wary of using the term "increase the available power", as it sounds equally as misleading as the term "Booster". Nothing is "boosted" and there is generally no "increase in power" as such, only more of it (Yes that does sound a little contradictory ! ). Ron . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Shropshire Lad Posted March 15, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks for the replies guys, I'm going to hook them together to give me all the power to one district I think. Lenz recomend a 10A transformer to supply both when doing this but I'm going to try running them off seperate 5A supplies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 We use a 10a block created from 2x Lenz boosters in certain layout configurations, and both boosters run of their individual 5a power supply and it works fine, but I suspect most folk won't need something as chunky as a 10a block? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Shropshire Lad Posted March 15, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks for that Martyn, I run G scale which is a bit power hungry! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Ah that'd probably do it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Hi Colin, sorry it wasn't clear you are running larger scale. Have you read the Lenz supplement for combining Power Stations? If not, it's here..... Parallel LV102 Supplement 2006 (it covers both LZV100 + LV102 and LV102 + LV102). They suggest a larger single switching transformer (an American one is mentioned). . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 But interestingly then in 7.2 after telling you how to do it they contradict themselves and say they don't reccomend it! The LV102 instructions linked by Melmerby above show two linked in parrallel with separate transformers, and I can vouch that it works. No wonder Colin was confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 But interestingly then in 7.2 after telling you how to do it they contradict themselves and say they don't reccomend it! No wonder Colin was confused. I was puzzled by that too, but read it again carefully. It is saying that 2 Power stations operating in parallel as a pair (either a LZV + LV or a LV + LV) should use a single transformer. Any other pairs must use their own separate transformer. A maximum of 2 Power Stations can be arranged in parallel (i.e. a pair). 7.2 Common transformer It is not recommended using a common transformer to power your LZV100/LV102 or LV102 pairs. If it helps, the diagram in chapter 5 on page 8 shows this. Compare it with the diagram in the previous chapter 4 on page 7. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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