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Ratio LMS diag 138 CK


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One of the planned formations for the layout is a Plymouth - Crew inter-regional set, this will be comprised of GW BCK (Sunshine Stock) GW CK (sunshine), GW BTK (collet bow ended) LMS BTK (period 3), LMS CK (LNWR diag 138) and LMS TK (Bachmann). The formation could also run with a restaurant (for which I should have a choice of a H33, a planned H16 70ft, and an LMS 70ft. See http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/101805-lmsgwr-inter-regional-workings/for more info

 

The idea is to be able to make models of a couple of different diagrams to provide a bit more interest.

 

 

After spotting it on eBay for a bargain price I picked up the ratio kit for the ex LNWR diag 138 CK, the build has been very straight forward so far (seen below with the roof placed loosely on the body.). Other than the lack of seats, the kit was a joy to build, with the parts fitting a lot better than the Slatters kit I was building last year (which still sits on my workbench awaiting the roof to be fixed!)

 

The only issue is the poor bogie design, though a set of Bill Bedfords units will sort that out.

 

One area I'm not clear on (given I have next to no LMS coach photos) there are a number of recesses of the roof from the old gas lamps. Would these be plated over?

 

What livery and lining should an old LMS coach like this carry post war just before they were withdrawn? I'm assuming LMS red with black ends, but would it be lined?

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The recesses would have long since been plated over as the gas lighting will have been removed prewar.  Don't use plastic based filler as the depth of this means that the solvent will not evaporate and over several months/years it will turn the plastic in close proximity to mush!

 

You will want the LMS period III livery (applied from post 1934, so presumably by "post war" you would assume that it had been repainted?).  Coach ends were crimson up until 1936, so again I presume you will assume that the coach was repainted after this time?

 

The good news is that it is simple lining, unless you are saying that the pre 1934 paint finish was still apparent.

 

Jenkinson's LMS coaches is pretty cheap to buy second hand -

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Thanks for the very help full advice,

 

I will keep an eye open for the LMS coaches book, though its going to have to be behind Russell Appendix 2 which I still need to source for GW restaurant coach photos!

 

I will make a start on plating over the lamp recesses this evening, Will fill the hole with plasticard offcuts and then a skim of squadron filler to blend in the curve.

 

Regarding the painting, I don

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