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"Great westernisation" correct building colours


Liam GWR

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As my account name suggests I choose to model the great western (in wales to be precise) which is very difficult when you live in New Zealand. Before / during modelling Beeching End I did a lot of research on the GWR. I must say now that if it wasn't for websites like this one and other sites like GWR Modelling and youtube, I wouldn't have been able to learn even half as much as I know now about the GWR and things to look out for when modelling a gw branchline.

 

I very quickly picked up on the concept the great western using the colours light stone (stone 2) and dark stone (stone 3) on all different forms of infrastructure eg, station canopy's, water towers, fences, doors, wooden parts of stations and signal boxes, lamp huts etc etc. this of course meant that by modelling a gw station that I would need to find the correct colours to use to represent stones 2 and 3. I am very aware of the option of going with Rail match or phoenix but I couldn't find a place that stocks them in New Zealand which is no problem but I decided to turn to resene because they produce 60mL test pots which are cheap and very good quality paint. The colours I chose in the end were Resene Whiskey (light stone) and Resene Sante Fe (dark stone). Note: these colours are based of the ones used on preserved lines ie Severn Valley, West Somerset, South Devon. I have seen so many photos of so many gwr layouts and each time it would appear that the light stone and darkstone are different, they all look fantastic but I thought that by using what the preserved lines use then I am playing it fairly safe.

 

I might also add that the great western did also have stones 1 and 4, stone 1 being cream and stone 4 being maroon but I am lead to believe that cream was mainly used as an undercoat and 4 was quite rarely used. On the subject of cream many gwr modellers also use cream and chocolate as an alternative to light stone and dark stone. from what I have seen in photo's and read online it would seem that cream and chocolate wasn't actually used on buildings until after nationalization. when I found this out I decided to do a few repaints of stuff I had in cream and chocolate to stones 2 and 3. another note is that signs on the gwr seemed to more often than not be painted in black and white.

 

I hope you have enjoyed reading my thoughts on great western building colours I have attached some photos from my layout for everyone to see. please feel free if you have any questions or comments to drop a comment.....cheers....Liam. :-)

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Hello 

Just a quick posting as I am off out to an SVR Branh meeting, but read with interest your blog....I am a volunteer on the Severn Valley Railway , based at Arley where our time period is mid-late 1930's and we have used dark / light stone / maroon / white and black standard colours....will look forward to reading your future blogs,  there are many fine sites.....the GWR society being one to google.....but always remember never become too 'hung up' on getting the correct shades of this and that.....our station along with many on the GWR network were all too ready to use whatever was 'at the back of the paint shed' if something needed protection...whether it was 'right' or not.....especially if you were out in the sticks where no one noticed!

 

 

Regards Bob

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You could do worse than obtain or refer to a copy of GWR Structure Colours 1912-1947 published by the GWSG.​ This goes into more than enough detail regarding paint colours and, perhaps more importantly, uses.

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Completely agree with BobM's comments. There has been a lot of speculation about the exact colours represented by light stone and dark stone but apparently these were mixed on site using a colour card that was in all probability dirty or discoloured. Often the card would have been lost and it was then a case of tipping in what was thought to be the right amount of burnt sienna pigment into the white lead base. Getting the correct share also assumed the foreman's eyesight was OK and does anyone really think they spent any amount of time trying to get the exact shade? Finally even when painted the effects of the weather would have an effect. I know my white car looks quite a different colour once the rain has coagulated the dust on it. Let's not worry too much about the exact colour because the exact colour doesn't excist.

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Completely agree with BobM's comments. There has been a lot of speculation about the exact colours represented by light stone and dark stone but apparently these were mixed on site using a colour card that was in all probability dirty or discoloured. Often the card would have been lost and it was then a case of tipping in what was thought to be the right amount of burnt sienna pigment into the white lead base. Getting the correct share also assumed the foreman's eyesight was OK and does anyone really think they spent any amount of time trying to get the exact shade? Finally even when painted the effects of the weather would have an effect. I know my white car looks quite a different colour once the rain has coagulated the dust on it. Let's not worry too much about the exact colour because the exact colour doesn't excist.

That's a very interesting point you make there thanks for that and to BobM :-)

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Hi Liam, that looks convincingly like GWR light and dark stone to me. I really like the that low down shot of the loco getting watered. Amazing what it does for realism to get down to that level when taking photos.

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Hi Liam, that looks convincingly like GWR light and dark stone to me. I really like the that low down shot of the loco getting watered. Amazing what it does for realism to get down to that level when taking photos.

Thanks mate, yes I agree, getting down low really does add realism

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