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drduncan

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Well its been a while, but I've not been that idle - stop sniggering Gareth.

 

ExpoEM went well - I think. I had a good few people drop by for a chat and the lecture seemed to be well received and promoted a fair amount of questions and discussion. Suffice to say that the 3 Mink conversions I was doing didn't get finished during the course of the 2 days. The only down side about demonstrating is you don;t get to see much of the show...

 

Anyway after ExpoEM I got roped into demoing at the GW Study Groups members day - and no I didn't finish the Minks then either (I kit bashed a Mink D into the prototype V9 instead).

 

So what have I fininshed?

 

Well I have managed to do a few more GWR red wagons. As the Sage of Fareham noted when he saw them loafing around on Hope-Under-Dinmore one club night: "You do like red don't you." Well if it wasn't for Gareth being all so well informed....

 

I digress.

 

So we have a batch of red 4 and 3 plank wagons.

 

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On the left we have a Cooperccraft O5 as it comes out of the box (not because I couldn't be bothered to put the correct headstocks on or lower the floor, but because I made it decades ago and have just repainted it from grey to red). Then moving right are two David Geen 3 plank white metal kits - very nice castings and went together very quickly.

 

Next we have a W2 Medium Mex cattle wagon.

 

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I've left the roof off so I can admire the interior - and add some straw... This kit has had the oil axleboxes replaced with grease ones which involved a fair amount of grinding away of white metal with the dental burrs.

 

Last there is a J7 double bolster.

 

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This is a D & S kit (now available through ABS). Again a very nice kit to build.

 

Lettering for all of them is by Pressfix or done by hand using a fine calligraphy pen and white ink. Weathering is dry brushed acrylics (Vallejo) and couplings are Alex Jacksons.

 

Now I just have to finish my Armstrong Goods and 1854 saddle tank in pre-1906 linery so that I have some locos to haul my growing collection of Red wagons!

 

drduncan

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bgman

Love the redness !

 

I know it seems to be subjective as to the red used to paint the wagons ( on another blog as I type ) but can I ask which type / make you've used on yours please ?

 

Nothing more than curious as I may be doing something similar in the near future.

 

Grahame

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drduncan

Hi Grahame,

The red is halfords red oxide primer. I've found precision paints too brown so added a little China red.

 

The weathering used light rust, light red, light mud, light grey, orange red.

 

The only trouble with the halfords red oxide is that press fix transfers don't stick to it so I used klear polish to give a gloss finish where the transfers were to go. Make sure you leave it to dry thoroughly or the transfers still won't stick!

 

Regards

Duncan

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garethashenden

I think that O5 needs a load of some sort to hide the floor problems. Is it an O5 at all? I thought those all had DC brakes and that has lever brakes...

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drduncan

Yes you're right, technically the O5 has DC 1 brakes, the Thomas and side lever ones being undiagrammed, but it remains a handy catch all for the 4 plank family in pre double sided O21 days.

 

It will also get a load, probably stone.

D

 

 

 

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MikeOxon

A very nice series of wagons - I especially like the W2. 

 

Although there are reference in the literature to 'light red', I believe that the red oxide pigments of the day would blacken with age, so the darker colour looks 'right' to me for 'in service' wagons (though no-one really knows :) )

 

Mike.

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I think we need a forum area dedicated to Great Western red wagons! There are several treads/blogs going on at once... As Donw says in a comment on your blog, Mike, red lead is quite a different colour to red oxide (different chemical composition) and may react differently with pollutants, weather differently, etc.

 

We need research council funding for an experiment: paint several timber samples (Baltic pine, English and American oak), appropriately prepared, with the various possible paints mixed according to authentic recipes, then subjected to accelerated weathering under different atmospheric/pollutant conditions. Reconstruct period emulsions &c and make a photographic record.

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drduncan

Research funding is always good. And it would be interdisciplinary too - chemistry, environmental sciences, and history. It would tick ahrc and escr funding boxes... Now all I need is tenure somewhere...

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MikeOxon

Perhaps one of our Didcot Railway Centre - based members could do a simple trial for us? 

 

There are plenty of bits of old ironwork around, which could be painted with red lead (it is still available) and stood in a suitable place in the yard, where the test pieces would be exposed to the smoke from real steam engines as well as general weather conditions

 

Any takers?

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