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PTAs - the finished wagon


The Fatadder

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I've now added most of the transfers to one side of the first wagon. (just needs tops code and number)

 

The Fox sheet is intended for the 2nd version of the livery carried by these wagons, this has a slightly wider blue band than the 3rd version of the livery that I am doing.

If the transfers were straight it would be a simple case of cutting them down to size, but of course they aren't.....

 

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I started by trying to fit as intended, but as I suspected the new ribs stop this from working (the Lima rib is more of a / \ patten, whereas mine are square.) I then carefully applied the transfer for the first letter and first rib, then made a cut before the 2nd letter (repeating for the rest). I found this rather difficult to get them straight, so the next one I will try cutting before fitting (a little more tricky as they arnt all the same width.) I have 2 wagons worth of spare transfers (the transfer pack comes with 6 wagons worth) while I would much prefer to keep these for use on future wagons (no doubt I will end up wanting more PTAs at some point!) it does at least give me some spares to expiriment with.

 

Will have a try at reducing the hight on the next one as well...

 

As for this one, my plan is to let it dry, then carefully cut a straight line on the top and bottom of the logo at the correct hight, then scrape off the unwanted bit.

 

I am missing a couple of the small logos (the blue one on the right hand side is the most noticeable)

 

The final decision I need to make is what to do about tops codes / numbers, the sheet includes transfers for both PTA, JUA and JTA. I assume that JUA/JTA are specific to inners and outer wagons (JTA and JUA respectively) and would be more appropriate for wagons in my era. Saying that, this gallery http://wagons.fotopic.net/c1490381.html shows a couple of PTAs in Yeoman in storage/scrapping in the late 2000s still with PTA branding (the only photos I have seen with JTA branding are a set with all the logos painted out on Martyn's fotopic.)

 

The numbers are a bit of a pain really, sadly the sheet dosnt come with any made up number sets, but has got the PR 14x done. However looking at photos I havent seen a Foster Yeoman PTA in the 14x number series, they are all numbered in the 26x series (and looking at photos on Paul's fotopic, they were in the 26x series in both previous liveries (including the one the transfers are designed for.) Were any PTAs numbered 140xx / 141xx /142xx ?

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Thanks for that link, looks a rather handy website.

 

Once the transfers are fully dry I will over paint the 14x number and replace with the correct one. Now wishing even more that the transfers had pre made numbers, as adding 10 wagons worth of 2 sets of 5 numbers is going to be fun....

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Thanks for that link, looks a rather handy website.

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Yes, quite a useful site. There's a wide range of background info there. Some of the owner/operator prefixes changed over the years, and rebuilds and recodings occurred as ever, but it's a pretty good picture.

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Perhaps you could ask Jon at Precision Labels to do you up a custom sheet of numbers on his ALPS printer. Save a lot of time and effort!

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