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In a Manor of speaking...Dapol 78xxx Manor Class detailing.


46444

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Some of you may know that the GWR 78xx Manor Class is one of my favourite engine designs.

 

Perhaps this comes from the Mainline model of the 1980's and seeing 7808 Cookham Manor at Didcot as a teenager.

 

Believe it or not I never owned a Mainline version. Just the reblown Bachmann version with updated chassis. 

 

I remember trying to detail and renumber these as well as putting a correct profile chimney on them. Infact gwrrob of this parish and ANTB fame may have my version of 7807 Compton Manor on shed still.

 

Over the past few years Dapol announced their new version of the Manor and I was ready to pre-order one when Accurascale announced their version. I went with the new boys and ordered one of their's which promises to be something really special.

 

However, the recent release of the Dapol version got me interested again. A lot of comnents were made about inaccuracies in the firebox shape. It began to feel as if Dapol had misfired and Accurascale are waiting in the wings to clean up.

 

Being one for supporting the underdog I thought I would bite the bullet and see what the Dapol model was really like. I duly ordered 7827 Lydham Manor from Kernow Model Railway Centre and it arrived safely. Excellent service as ever from the Cambourne team.

 

To The Manor Born...

 

The packaging and presentation of the model is excellently done. On examining the model you can see Dapol have made an excellent job of portraying the prototype.

 

To me there is a familiarity about the Manor design perhaps from detailing Bachmann models and having a fair few books with pictures of the Class as reference.

 

The list of things that stood out for me as needing attention were identified as the following:

 

1. The 'blingtastic' safety valve cover.

2. The under nourished smokebox numberplate.

3. The green paintwork looked a bit flat in my eyes.

4. Those tyre rims on the wheels.

5. Black plastic crosshead.

 

Within minutes of opened the box I was armed with a black Sharpie permanent marker and inked in the wheels. The valve gear including crosshead was treated to a coating of silver from the same stable.

 

This was the end of play on the first day.

 

To The Manor Born...

 

So essentially some attention with a couple of Sharpie pens addresses some of the issues.

 

On my next decent modelling session I blackened the buffers with Birchwood Casey Gun Blue have burnished them first with fine wet and dry.

 

Manor'isms

 

The paintwork was nicely lifted with two coats of Johnson's Kleer floor polish. 

 

Manor'isms

 

The 'blingtastic' safety valve cover was toned down with brush applied Valejo mat varnish. Two coats in this instance. Then using Valejo Old Wood beige coloured paint 2 coats once more gave a base layer. After this I made a blend of Games Workshop metallic colours (Names to be added as away and pots not to hand). 

 

To the Manor Born...

 

The copper cap capped chimney and smokebox were masked off with Tamiya tape as was the cab roof. Using Tamiya Flat Black I sprayed these in along with the running plate and black areas of the tender.

 

To the Manor Born...

 

Although the Dapol model comes with separate cabside numberplates to fit over the printed versions I fancied trying the 3D printed ones produced by Railtec. Steve supplied some excellent 3D printed numberplates, shed code plate and smoke box numberplate.

 

To the Manor Born...

 

Wonderful service and a brilliant product. Easily fixed into position with a dab of Kleer. Well recommended.

 

In my eyes they also address in my eyes the issue of the under nourished smokebox numberplate. It also adds a bit more interest to the front in my eyes.

 

To the Manor Born...

 

The nameplate is the factory fitted Dapol version by the way. 

 

With regards to the tender I filed down the distal side of the coal load insert. This was to help with adding a real coal load. Glued in I then coated the insert with PVA and added real crushed coal and allowed to dry. 

 

To the Manor Born...

 

A spare set of Bachmann fire irons finish the tender detailing.

 

To the Manor Born...

 

I should have mentioned the detail in the cab. Its exquisite only lacking the fold down seats. I like the ATC bell housing.

 

To the Manor Born...

 

To the Manor Born...

 

Essentially in my eyes the remedial work has been completed and addresses the issues I highlighted earlier. As it stands it would be for many a good point to leave the project and have an excellent model of a Manor. 

 

To the Manor Born...

 

What I do plan to do to finish things off is fit a Modelu crew and their GWR/BR (WR) lamps. Finally it will receive a light in service weathering then 7827 is ready for service. 

 

I am quiet tempted to give the model the Royal Train embellishments of white paint as well it received in the early 1960's along with other members of the class.

 

I'll let you make your own mind up on the Dapol Manor but overall I am very impressed all round with it. Final thoughts on the next instalment.

 

Manor'isms

 

7827 Lydham Manor running light at Talledega in 1963. Captured by Jonty Jarvis 

 

More soon.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 😉

 

Apologies for typos and poor grammar...To be corrected...

 

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Hi 46444, good work on the Manor sir!

Just a quick question in regards to the Johnson's kleer, as to how permanent it is / can it withstand being handled etc? I've never used it myself see but fed up with varnishing loco's.

 

Thanks in advance!

B10M 

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6 hours ago, B10M said:

Just a quick question in regards to the Johnson's kleer, as to how permanent it is / can it withstand being handled etc? 

 

Morning B10M,

 

Many recognised modellers use Kleer as a varnish or setting solution for transfers.

 

I have used it over a long time with no problems with regards to permanency or handling.

 

It dries streak free and can be brush applied or sprayed. I do spray Valejo or Tamiya varnish over it to matt it down.

 

However I always use water based paints. I would not recommend applying enamels paints of varnish over them just in case there was a reaction between the two products.

 

All I would say is experiment on something old and see how you get on before attacking your best model.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

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Nice work Mark - one of those jobs you love getting stuck in to.

 

Results and pics show the enhancements nicely on the photo plank.

 

So what will you do about the Accurascale one...is that on the preorder list still...just to compare of course 😉

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8 hours ago, 46444 said:

 

Morning B10M,

 

Many recognised modellers use Kleer as a varnish or setting solution for transfers.

 

I have used it over a long time with no problems with regards to permanency or handling.

 

It dries streak free and can be brush applied or sprayed. I do spray Valejo or Tamiya varnish over it to matt it down.

 

However I always use water based paints. I would not recommend applying enamels paints of varnish over them just in case there was a reaction between the two products.

 

All I would say is experiment on something old and see how you get on before attacking your best model.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

Hi Mark,

 

Many thanks indeed, will look into getting some. I've long used humbrol spray varnish but it's quite often, far too thick.

 

Thanks again

 

Cheers, Johnny

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4 hours ago, bcnPete said:

Nice work Mark - one of those jobs you love getting stuck in to.

 

Results and pics show the enhancements nicely on the photo plank.

 

So what will you do about the Accurascale one...is that on the preorder list still...just to compare of course 😉

 

Thanks Pete... 😉

 

Yep. It's been a lovely project and looking forwards to finishing it off along with the Clan's in my previous entry.

 

The Accurascale order is still on... 👍

 

After all. It will offer a different take on one of my favourite classes of loco and promises to be very special indeed.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

 

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2 hours ago, gwrrob said:

Beautiful work Mark. Although currently out of stock , Brassmasters do some etched GWR cab seats, E6, for those who want to add them here.

 

https://brassmasters.co.uk/gwr_etched_components.htm

 

Thanks Robin,

 

It is a lovely model and with a few tweaks it's certainly lifted from the out of the box appearance.

 

Folks will not be disappointed by it.

 

As for the Brassmasters top tip that's useful to know. I'll keep an eye out for when they are back in stock.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

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Hi Mark

 

Just a point of order…. The embellishments you mention are perhaps “Danny’s Bull” …. Danny Rowlands being the shed master at Aberystwyth who insisted on turning out resplendent engines from his depot for the Cambrian Coast Express when surrounded by filthy engines from other depots. 
 

Certainly worth doing ….

 

Phil

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27 minutes ago, B10M said:

Hi Mark,

 

Many thanks indeed, will look into getting some. I've long used humbrol spray varnish but it's quite often, far too thick.

 

Thanks again

 

Cheers, Johnny

No worries Johnny,

 

Glad to help. 

 

Kleer is now called Pledge Mutisurface Polish. It is now cloudy but dries clear. It is what has been used on 7827.

 

It costs around the £7.00 mark for a large bottle.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

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14 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said:

Hi Mark

 

Just a point of order…. The embellishments you mention are perhaps “Danny’s Bull” …. Danny Rowlands being the shed master at Aberystwyth who insisted on turning out resplendent engines from his depot for the Cambrian Coast Express when surrounded by filthy engines from other depots. 
 

Certainly worth doing ….

 

Phil

 

Thanks for the information Phil. I never knew about Danny Rowlands. 

 

I have a picture of four of the Class being prepared for royal train duty. Suitably bulled up.

 

Ironically all four of them are preserved.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

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6 hours ago, 46444 said:

No worries Johnny,

 

Glad to help. 

 

Kleer is now called Pledge Mutisurface Polish. It is now cloudy but dries clear. It is what has been used on 7827.

 

It costs around the £7.00 mark for a large bottle.

 

Cheers,

 

Mark 

 

Thanks Mark, 

Did you spray yours on please mate? - I recall that you said it can be sprayed or brushed on. 

 

Thanks again 

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Looks much improved but I still can’t get over the wrong looking firebox/boiler join and angles, the more I look at my lydham the worse it looks. Interesting that as new your lydham had the same blob of flash on the rear of the safety valve bonnet as mine although on yours at least the cab end tender handrails seem to meet the fenders unlike mine. Can’t wait for my accurascale Dinmore to arrive.

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