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Class 150 Improvements


The Fatadder

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Today I have received a pre production pack of Shawplan's new mk3 unit windows intended for use with Bratchell's multiple unit kit range (and Jim SW's etched windows). Deciding to be awkward I have set about fitting them to a Bachmann 150 instead. I have discussed before the advantages in accuracy that Jims etch brings over the Bachmann part, so see my old workbench thread on RMweb3 for more details on that.

The first thing you notice is how thick the new windows are compared with the Bachmann ones (approximately 4mm compared with 2mm), however once fitted the Shawplan window looks like the thin one, with none of the dodgy edges that RTR windows suffer from.

 

Fitting:

The first job is to carefully cut off the Bachmann window frame with a sharp scalple, and then to prepare the new windows. Unfortunately either the Bachmann or Bratchell (I havent worked out which) has incorrect door windows, the Bachmann ones being a fair bit bigger than Bratchels. that means that for the time being you have to reuse the Bachmann door windows (hopefully Brian can be persuaded to do some Bachmann sized windows for it...)

Upon removal from the fret you are left with 4 fine tabs to file off, and a protective film that needs to be removed from one side. The new window has a tapered edge, so lining this up with the inside of the window with the thick side (that was covered by the film) on the inside. This is then pushed into position until the window is flush with the bodyside.

 

I then painted up the new frames using Jim SW's etches. The outside half etched section should be painted body colour and the inside of the lower main window should be black (see this photo of Martyn's for a clearer view of this. http://ukrailwaypics.fotopic.net/p6366918.html). Once this is done the window is then sanded back to get rid of any paint thats got onto the full thickness part of the etch. I then use Jon's method for applying the windows, using a masking tape hinge to move back the etch, apply glue, and then push back into position.

 

The attached image was a bit of a rush job to get something ready for Stafford at the weekend, as such its unpainted still. Even so I think it has made a big difference, correcting the colour of the tint along with getting a better looking window frame.

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Hi Rich

 

I was hoping someone would try this, I'd seen Brians Bracthell windows a while ago and I'm getting some of his vi37s windows at Stafford to try out so I'll pop by and have a look at the 150, I'm still waiting on the T4U ltd ed so there's plenty of time for you to finish yours and me to copy hehe.

 

Dave

 

 

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Better make sure that I remember it then!

 

Will be interested to hear what you think about the use of the Bachmann door windows with them as well,

 

Either way I should have the rest of the glazing parts fitted, though the actual window frames will have to wait until after the show as I forgot to buy any Regional Railways blue paint.....

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Now finished fitting the windows to the unpowered end of the unit, the powered end will stay with the Bachmann windows for comparison on Saturday (and will need an interior building along with a new mech before I get round to changing the windows.)

 

I have found a lot of variance with the fit, not sure if this is down to the amount of filing on the new window when removing the tabs, or amount of glue seapage on the bodyshell (causing an obstruction on the inside of the window hole)

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Little more testing, The shawplan windows comes with enough on the fret to do all of the variations (it has 12 large windows and a toilet window) This left 2 side windows and a toilet window which were left over. Logical thing to do with them.... Test fit it in a Bratchel model...

 

The fit is a lot better (as you'd expect given this is what they were designed for) however this time it will require a bit of glue to hold them in place.

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Striking improvement. I still have my Bratchill 150 to finish - having decided to upgrade with jim s-w's etches , ready made correct size windows would be a great help, so I'm eagerly awaiting Shawplan's formal release of these (Ally Pally / York time?)

 

 

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I'd be surprised if they aren't available by Ally Pally,

Certainly makes a huge difference to the time taken to use Jim's etches, I doubt that my bratchel kit would have ever got finished if I had to cut each window out individually! Saying that god knows how long its going to be until I do get round to getting some paint onto it anyway....

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