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RSU - the trial results


scanman

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First - my thanks to Kenton for the comment on the 'Soldering Station' entry - sounds like someone who has used the same unit!

 

The unit has four ports - the top three (red) marked A-C, and the final port (Black) marked D. The instructions show power combinations using combinations of all four. I'll admit now I 'bottled' on settings like A/B or B/C - the power leads are red & black, and that seemed to me to be a clue! I will say now that the instructions give very little in the way of clues other than to suggest the process used here (trial and error)!

 

Please note that in the following images, there has been no 'cleaning-up' of solder residues, and all the images are cruel enlargements!

 

So The first set-up was two pieces of 20 thou brass, edge to flat using the fence to gain the rightangle. No tinning but using solder paste (Neals). Here'a the set-up - note the use of magnets.

 

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Using setting A/D achieved the following result:

 

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the carbon tip glowed red-hot, but using the fence resulted in a fair rightangle:-

 

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The next test was to solder 5 thou to 20 thou as a flat mating:

 

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The initial setting was A/D , but a second attempt with B/D worked just as well

 

Moving on to 5thou - 5 thou flat:

 

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again using B/D

 

Then 20-thou -20 thou flat:-

 

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Again, more than acceptable on B/D - but note the 'burn' caused by removing the carbon tip from the work before releasing the footswitch!

 

Then what I considered the 'ultimate test - 5thou on edge on 20 thou:

 

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This was not too successful using solder paste - there is not really sufficient bearing surface on the 5 thou. However, keeping the tip active and introducing resin-core resulted in a perfectly acceptable joint:

 

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Using the above as an indicator, I then attempted to 'tin' 20-thou using resin-core solder on the B/D setting:-

 

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All in all not bad for a first attempt, and certainly more positive than I would have achieved with a standard iron in the same time. Hopefully I'll get better with practice and advice like Kenton's!

 

On with the kit!

 

Regs

 

Ian

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An RSU is not really suited to tinning where you normally aim to coat an area. Its vitue is the ability to heat a small area quickly. The late Martin Brentdemonstrated to me that solder paste tended to produce a weaker joint than normal solder and flux. Great for adding details but not so good for structural joints. My RSU gets less use these days since I aquired a Microflame unit. Very small flame at about 1800degrees its a quick in and out job.

Don

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Thanks for posting this Ian. I have a London Road Models RSU which has sat in its box since I bought it last year at ExpoEM North, I think its time it came out and got set up. Have you tried pre-tinning with a conventional iron?

 

Paul.

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I'm glad it's not just me that has problems remembering to move my foot off the switch before removing the probe. On the higher power settings there is an impressive flash if you forget!

 

I am quite impressed with the RSU I tried, although I think I'll use it mainly for building up layers and sweating components together - I much prefer a conventional iron for seam joints.

 

Please keep the posts coming - this is very interesting and useful.

 

Andy

 

 

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My comments:

 

Yes from the photo it looks like the same RSU but mine has no black terminals. I generally always put the base terminal (crocodile) in the highest coded terminal - do not know why.

 

My main comment is that I think you are doing it all wrong. Sorry.

You have one massive heat sink and electrical continuity issue.

The RSU works by generating heat at the point of highest resistance. This should be at the point where the two pieces of metal to be joined are in contact only through the liquid flux/paste. In all your examples you have electrical metal to metal continuity through the "solder station" the result is that you are using a far too high a setting, generating too much heat and destroying you carbon tips. An indication of this is they are glowing red.

 

Try again. This time insulate one of the pieces to be joined from the "solder station" using a thin piece of card. Do it so that the only way electricity will flow is through the insulated part, through the join and to the other uninsulated part. Also realise that that massive heat sink is causing as much trouble as it would with conventional soldering, so also insulate it with card. Use the magnet or a small uninsulated area to provide electrical continuity.

 

Also I have found that when using paste the points to be joined have to be exceptionally clean and despite the use of solder cream the join still benefits from adding liquid flux. It is amazing how little cream is required to make a join - if you can see it - it is probably too much.

 

One final note: do not use the RSU for jobs that are better handled with a conventional soldering iron - typically seaming (if you do then use the RSU on the outside of the seam not the inside - but beware of arcing when you remove the carbon tip without turning off the power.

 

The RSU is a great tool to have but it doesn't replace the conventional iron. It is best used for those tiny joins of small components to large components. These are best handled off the "solder station" by attaching the black lead to the main component and the anode to the small part being added. It is then that you appreciate the power being used and the heat generated by the low settings. As on too high a setting the small part can be vapourised.

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I used a home made RSU quite a lot when I used to build 7 mm locos. Get yourself some solder paint, expensive, but you don't need to use much of it. Have you got a foot switch with your unit, these can be very useful, when attaching thing like lamp brackets. The part can be held in position with the electrode and the “spare hand” while you control the power with you foot.

 

 

 

 

Gary

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Is this a swanage models unit. If so I'm waiting for min to be delivered.

In earlier text it was described as "one of Dick Ganderton's 'Graskop' units" This is what mine also is and mine was one of the last one's sold by him. The London Road Models and Swanage units are essentially the same as this one (as are they all) and although the settings might be labeled differently their use remains the same. It is an expensive bit of kit to spend your cash on £100+ and they are heavy to post. But if you are an avid (near daily) kit builder you are likely to find it an invaluable tool. I wish I had bought one much earlier.

 

Solder cream beats solder paint on convenience every time as the amount used is so small. Solder paint still has its uses for tinning parts but requires care when used for overlays. The trapped flux can boil off very rapidly and blow off the overlay if not held firmly together.

 

There is a real risk when using an RSU for overlays, that is localised heating. The part is expanded by the heat and with thin overlays this can lead to buckling and distortion.

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Hi folks - and apologies for the lateness of the hour!.

 

To answer some points -

 

David - yes this is the unit sold by 'Trainman' at Swanage. I wrote the initial article whilst at work, and could not for the life of me remember the details except it came from Swanage!

 

Kenton - many thanks for your comments & instruction. It seems I missed something (or forgot more like) at the ExpoEM demo - although I would have thought I would remember seeing card as an insulator.

 

I did wonder why settings like C(red)/D(black) did not appear to generate any heat. I'll try your method - although I might use the thin asbestos paper from the initial set of images, rather than card. More trials tommorrow then!

 

However, I have to say that the unit has performed well on the 4-4-0 kit today - although I do take DonW's point about not getting fixated with the RSU ('New toy' and all that) the RS temo controlled iron has been in use today!

 

On the matter of solders - I tend to use 'Neals' solder paint/paste for some jobs and 'RS' multicore for others - 'horses for courses' so to speak. Both have the advantage of being lead-based (and therefore very nonPC!) but it's only me that's at risk!

 

Right - back to the MSWJR page!

 

Regs

 

Ian

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