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Playing trains. I mean planning trains! Auf Deutsch.


Will Vale

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So having solicited some opinions a little while ago (thanks to everyone who responded!) I seem to be about to ignore them... Unfortuntely, while I've been doing a little plastic-kit-making for Tanis (Do335A Pfeil) I'm still drawn to the Höllentalbahn. It seems like something to do that I could get to a good state for Railex at the start of October. I'd only want to model a bit of it as a tail-chaser, and the bit that appeals most is Hirschsprung and associated tunnels.

 

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[image by Joachim Haller via Wikipedia, reproduced under Creative Commons CC-BY-SA license.]

 

The motivation for this goes back to being a really big fan of Jacq Damen en co's Steilstrecke/Dreimuhletalbahn (some pics on a forum here). I've thought for a while it would make a good Z project, and I like the idea of being a bit more "prototype modeller" about it. I've laid some track out on the table to have a think about this already, and given that Micky removed our dubious wardrobe doors recently I now have four hollow-core doors which are about the right size. They're really too heavy to be good baseboards, but they're great for visualising the space:

 

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I have to say that Märklin Z is a great executive toy. It really does seem to fulfil the commercial goals they had for it originally: In the advertising, serious-looking chaps would see the trains as status purchases, be pleased that they were proper scale models, and occasionally get them out for a play on their frighteningly-clean designer furniture. Of all the scales I'm interested in this is the one where I'm happiest just to run things around, although I lack both designer furniture and the regulation beard. Oh well.

 

The layout idea would be to do 1800x450mm or thereabouts representing the area around the Hirschsprung tunnels, with a plate girder bridge from slightly further west moved into scene. This is just a single line of scenic track, so I don't have to ballast any Z turnouts, and needs to rise between 20 and 40mm left to right along the front.

 

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At the back there are two fiddle yards, the left one at datum level, the right one set further to the front of the layout, also level but raised to whatever the height difference ends up being. An inclined link would complete the loop allowing for continuous running.

 

Other options would be to have level track (which seems to be missing the point slightly) and a conventional double-ended fiddle yard, but that doesn't allow for very long trains - the staggered fiddle yards can have slightly longer roads.

 

The front edge of the layout would be the stream and B31 road, with a little bit of foreground terrain in places. I'd like to capture the joggle between the cliffs, visible in the image above, at the right corner of the layout. I'm assuming that the visible track will bow in in a sinuous fashion to make space for the valley, and I'm a little concerned about available depth. Squeezing the fiddle yard to two roads in each direction would resolve this at the expense of some train variety. Maybe cassettes would be a good idea?

 

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Having added this nasty bit of Photoshoppery, I wonder if the features on the right hand end shouldn't move further to the right, so that part of the return curve would be visible. It would give a nice view through the gap, but would make it difficult to extend the layout in that direction in the future. (And that is the logical direction to extend, since Hirschsprung station is just to the east.)

 

I can't see any really good reasons not to go ahead and build this - it lets me try some dramatic scenery, lets my Z gauge come out of the drawer a bit more often, and it uses almost exclusively things that I already have. Assuming I can resist (I can't) collecting more prototypical train formations for the various periods the line could be operated. Current thoughts are Epoch III (1950s DB), Epoch V (turn of the century DBAG) and maybe a bit of Epoch IV as well if my dad'll lend m

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Will I don't think the round and round will get bored, as you say it's a chance to get the Z scale stuff out. It's a Z scale equivalent of my garden layout really!

The scenery seems like a reasonable balance - try not to cram too many features in - and from the prototype photo make sure you can use the vertical height too and get a real feeling of a line through the landscape. I presume the track will be 'raised' from the valley bed? If not that would help the scenic aspect.

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I think you gave some good advice, James – I myself cannot think of anything to add at the moment. Except that I have seen only a small number of Z scale layouts thus far and thus am looking forward to what you may come up with, Will :yes: .

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Looking a little different from the last projects Will.... but one that has plenty of scope and playability. It's also good to see the post here by you, and I will watch with interest. I presume that the red item is a "railer" - I have enough problems railing OO.... N gauge is quite a fiddle for me - what can Z be like... actually, I'm not sure, but I think I'd like to have a go :lol:

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Thanks for the comments chaps. I agree entirely about the vertical aspect - I really want to capture that and I'm thinking of a scenic area around 250-300mm deep, 300mm high at the moment. Maybe a bit higher, but I don't want to have a lot of visible sky since I don't think that'll give the right impression. I think the hardest thing will be managing any foreground features at the RH end which come in front of the track, since the prototype rock is really high there.

 

@James: The track will be raised up. I was going to put a slab of Styrofoam over the entire board, but I think that's not actually going to work since I doubt I can sand a smooth level ramp from that. So cookie-cutter might be better.

 

 

@Jon: Yes, it's a re-railer. In this scale it's pretty much vital! I was thinking that (assuming I don't go for cassettes in the fiddle yard) I'd attach a stub of track to the free end of each slip (visible on the right in the plan, I left a switchbox on the left-hand one) and attach a re-railer to this permanently. For "serious operation" mode it's necessary to swap locos to the other end of their train, and the railer should help with that. Thankfully the large Märklin "fish hook" couplings allow you to lift a loco without taking the train with it.

 

I have done a little bit of Z before - the layout I built for my dad - but that was much smaller, freelanced, and pastoral rather than epic. This is definitely a bit different - I have a fair bit of research material this time around.

 

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One interesting question is which season/period to model to. At the moment I'm thinking that summer 2000 would be good - lots of greenery to soften the rocks, slightly overgrown track, and the odd colour light signal. I don't think that would be too offensive when backdated to the '50s with road vehicles and rolling stock.

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