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1 hour ago, rodent279 said:
That would equate to boring Chipping Sodbury tunnel in around 3 months, all other things being equal. It took something like 3 years back in 1897.
The rate of progress depends not only on man vs. machine but also on the geology.
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2 hours ago, Dave Hunt said:
Shouldn’t that be zwei und zweizig?
In English, doesn't rhyme. 'Two little ducks', to which the congregation responds 'quack, quack".
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7 minutes ago, Dave Hunt said:
forced to drink champagne
You would have my father-in-law's sympathy - he doesn't rate the stuff, maintaining that other sparkling wines are better both in terms of price and quality. As an experimental psychologist with a keen interest in the fallibility of human judgement*, he maintains that the senses are tricked by the price and reputation.
*His own excepted, I would say, but remember I'm his son-in-law.
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7 hours ago, big jim said:
Johnny sat cross pawed at the top of the stairs!
The radiator pipe goes right under where he’s sat
My parents' first cat used to do that. The hot water pipes passed right under the head of the stairs...
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8 minutes ago, NZRedBaron said:
Well, to be fair, there's no NER passenger stock that's RTR, and little if any RTR goods wagons; besides, there's always a place for kit building.
But for those to whom the prospect of building an engine from a kit is daunting, kit-building wagons and carriages to run behind those RTR engines is a good way of working up to it.
This is very much a kit-building topic, so one does not want to stray too far, but mention should be made of the Accurascale hopper wagons. Don't forget the electric loco and the petrol railcar! Also, there is more appropriate RTR rolling stock about if one chooses to model the NER in LNER or, especially, BR days, those RTR engines remaining highly appropriate. (And the numerous industrial saddle-tanks for colliery exchange sidings.) The NER is also quite well served for RTP buildings - but those signals!
All applying to 4 mm scale, of course.
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Many years ago, at a student production of HMS Pinafore, the lead tenor was Welsh; throughout the chorus 'For he is an Englishman' he was frantically waving the Welsh flag.
I do think that any sensible person living in a country commonly known as 'yuck' is bound to have a rather sceptical view of nationalism.
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Almost makes you wonder why @mikemeg bothers with kits, doesn't it?
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10 hours ago, Compound2632 said:
I'd want to find photos of other Claye-built 5-plankers of the period.
Turton's Thirteenth Collection (Lightmoor Press, 2014) pp. 68-69 has an article on F. & R.H. Johnson of Derby, who had a number of S.J. Claye-built 5-plank, 8-ton wagons, including No. 16, a photograph of which appears; the date seems a bit ambiguous but to my eyes it has more the flavour of an 1890s wagon. Fortuitously, this photo appears on Lightmoor's website, advertising this volume:
This wagon has a number of points of similarity with the Newington wagon - the door filler piece and wooden stop-blocks - but differs in having the diagonal straps inside, rather than outside, the sheeting. Note how the diagonal strap terminates as a bolt projecting through the corner-plate.
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6 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said:
BTW there are now several north Wales distilleries. Would there have been any in 1895?
Another topic that has been discussed hereabouts. just the one in 1895, I think, established by a Mr Lloyd-Price:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_whisky#Revival.
See also:
https://www.peoplescollection.wales/items/32565#?xywh=-1%2C-48%2C700%2C536
and:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frongoch_internment_camp.
The climate of Welsh Methodism and the Temperance Movement was rather inimicable to the whisky business.
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14 minutes ago, Compound2632 said:
it turns out to be a Crimean War battle
But of course. The 'Eupatoria' of which this engine was a renewal was a member of the Alma sub-class of 1854/5 of the Iron Duke class: Alma, Balaklava, Crimea, Eupatoria (no battle beginning with D!), Inkerman, Kertch, Sebastapol - all renewed as Rovers.
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3 hours ago, Annie said:
"Eupatoria"
I had to look that up. I was expecting it to be the name of some Greek nymph but it turns out to be a Crimean War battle:
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10 minutes ago, Nick C said:
Just a brushing to help him with the loose fur would have been much better.
We have a comb for the purpose on one or other of our bedside tables; being sat on while administering several hundred combs inbetween trying to drink one's tea and do a sudoku is part of the morning ritual.
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10 minutes ago, MarcD said:
There is evidence of them running in small rakes B3rd-comp-B3rd on branchlines.
The classic early (pre-continuous brakes) photo of such a set with Terrier 'Poplar' that Dapol have used in their advertising was taken at Selsden Road North Signal Box, near Croydon. So not exactly a bucolic Sussex byway,
19 minutes ago, MarcD said:As for the olive green coaches they would be post 1923. The ones lasting longest were those sent to the IOW.
Am I right in thinking that it was only carriages transferred the Isle of Wight that survived long enough to receive Southern livery?
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A couple of pictures of Johnson 4-4-0s have been posted, and very elegant they look. But at the time of the accident, 446 was a very different-looking engine, having been rebuilt with the larger-diameter H boiler in December 1905. Here's 444 rebuilt in the same way, along with another unidentified H-boiler rebuild, at Armathwaite on 3 August 1911:
[Embedded link to catalogue image of Midland Railway Study Centre item 88-1996-71_4, Derby official photo DY9599.]
It was rebuilt as a 483 Class superheated 4-4-0 (the precursor of the LMS standard 2P) in March 1921.
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8 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said:
Hmm, bingo is something that has never appealed to me - my God-mother was an aficionado, and seemed to win something every week she went. It's all too Mrs Brady old lady for my tastes. '59 though, was a good year....😉
As PTA Chair, a good few years ago, I had to help run a Bingo evening or three. We had an excellent caller.
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8 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said:
HB Dave, have a great day, although Sunset Strip is before my time, just being a yoof of 65 ish.
Come now, like "59, five and nine, the Brighton line" it's a well-established bingo call, recognised even by Bingo-players who weren't playing before 1923 - and there are such.
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4 minutes ago, Andy Vincent said:
I must admit that thought crossed my mind when @JSpencer commented that the Bachmann SECR wagon had perhaps had its day. I haven't had time to go and check - and it could just about be correct I suppose - but a SECR body on an RCH 1923 underframe (and an end door one at that) struck me as just a little odd!
The Bachmann model is at least a very decent representation of an RCH 1923 specification wagon, right down to the post-war capping strip brackets, so if one was presented with the inappropriately SECR-liveried model one could at least get to work distressing it, obliterating the lettering, to end up with a decent model.
What I was alluding to is far, far, worse.
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1 hour ago, Pre Grouping fan said:
G. Newington & Co. 5-Plank Wagon
S. Turner, Private Owner Wagons of the South-East Part 2 (Lightmoor Press, 2022) pp. 146-7. Part view in a photo taken a Lewes c. 1905, with a sketch based thereupon. Turner reports that the firm had at least 14 wagons, numbered 100-113, hired from S.J. Claye of Long Eaton from 1895 until at least 1909, with No. 111 repaired by Claye in 1914 after being damaged by the LB&SCR. Nos. 106, 107, and 113 were recorded at Sheffield Park in Nov 1899 - Jan 1900, giving spot on topicality.
Rapido's 5-plank model is a good match for the wagon in the photo, as far as it can be seen, with side knee washer straps turning outwards at the bottom and external diagonal straps. There are two visible departures from the wagon in the photo: the lack of the half-round batten on the side rail below the door and the lack of wooden door stops - one can just about be made out in the photo, so they're shown on the sketch. These would be easy enough to add to the model. The rest is darkness; I'd want to find photos of other Claye-built 5-plankers of the period. Dimensions are also guesswork, I think. From the Midland Railway PO Wagon Registers, Claye was building in 1897 8-ton wagons with internal dimensions either 14' 6" x 7' 0" x 3' 1 1/2" or 15' 6" x 7' 0" x 2' 11", with full-height side doors (add 6" to length and width to get length over headstocks and width over side sheeting). Of course the wagon in the photo might not be one of Newington's 14 Claye wagons but there's no evidence the firm had any others.
Unless Rapido and the Bluebell have information not in Turner, the brown woodwork is a guess, as far as I can see, and a guess in the face of probability, which says grey is most likely! Also, from the photo in Turner, I think the lettering is shaded black - this is half-heartedly suggested by the sketch, which is faithfully reproduced by the model. The purchaser is left to supply their own number (LH end, bottom plank, I suppose), tare weight and Load 8 (probably) Tons (customarily LH and RH ends of the side rail, respectively) an registration plate on the solebar. The photo isn't sufficiently high resolution to read the oval owner's plate, which ought to tell us that it is S.J. Clay's; we also lack his builder's plate and perhaps a 'For Repairs Advise' plate.
All nitpicking of course (not rivet-counting - no rivets in a PO wagon) on what is a very nicely-done model which I hope boosts the Bluebell Railway Goods Division's coffers so that more full-sized vehicles can be sympathetically restored and maintained. Things have certainly moved on from just a few years ago when such a commission would likely have used a 17' 6"-style wagon model with steel underframe and 10 ft wheelbase - mentioning no names but you know who I mean. (The horror! The horror!)
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1 hour ago, Mikkel said:
A round-ended "backgrounder" here, number not quite readable, is it 3xx47?
The second digit looks rounded top and bottom - 0, 3, 6, 8, or 9 - and the third flat-topped but round-bottomed - 5?
Neither 33xxx or 38xxx are 3-plank series, the former being mostly loco coal wagons and the latter cattle wagons. 36547 was from os Lot 294 and 39547 os Lot 323, but both these were built square-ended. That would leave 30547 of os Lot 188 but that lot ought to have wood end pillars rather than iron stanchions, surely?
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1 hour ago, polybear said:
3. If there's Cake then a Bear is close by.....and a Hippo.....
That's not physics - it's biology.
But the same two rules apply to the digestion of cake by large mammals.
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1 hour ago, Mikkel said:
I won't mention the foreground as that will only lead us astray 🙂
Except to remark on that one really shouldn't put H0 rolling stock behind an 00 locomotive.
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6 hours ago, Andy Vincent said:
There should perhaps be a prize for the first person to successfully use the rope anchor points in prototypical fashion (although prototype practice seems to have been to ignore them and use buffers, brake hangers or anything else convenient!
Looking good! It would almost be a shame to cover up all that lovely detail with a sheet.
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1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said:
One problem with many of the PO wagon kits and transfers is that most are well after 1895.
This is true but Powsides do a good few for Gloucester wagons based on Gloucester official photos taken in the late 1890s and early 1900s, which is good for my 1902 date! (Too many nearly-new wagons, not enough old dumb buffers - which is tolerable in a Midland context but poor balance for other lines.) On the other hand, the Slaters Gloucester wagons have the round-bottomed Gloucester type 4 axleboxes of the early 90s rather than the square-bottomed 4S ones seen in all those photos. Fortunately Dart / MJT have cast whitemetal ones, or one can use the Cambrian Models Gloucester underframes.
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Annie's Virtual Pre-Grouping, Grouping and BR Layouts & Workbench
in Pre-Grouping - Modelling & Prototype
Posted · Edited by Compound2632
If you're doing that, I'd like to see what you can get out of @eheaps's Smith-Johnson compound - can you better 2632's 92 mph sweeping down Ribblesdale with the Scotch Express...
Perhaps what you need is a digital Charles Rous-Marten* figure with working stopwatch?
*I don't know of that many famous New Zealanders but he's up there.