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  1. Hi Andy, I've been lurking since this thread started and I'm a bit worried about two things: 1. Will the trackplan fit in the space? I think it probably will but it would be great to draw it to scale using turnout templates to find out. To make the best of the space I suspect you may have to go down to R3 and R4 curves in the off-scene areas. What's your intended off-scene minimum radius? 2. The bridge section across the doorway: Lots of fragile and heavy scenery to move and might be difficult to make it look realistic with the joints and the separation from any backdrop.
  2. From Plymouth westwards, over the Tamar it's Kernow, of course, not England.
  3. The available space of 10ft by 10ft is also going to play a big part in determining the size of station and the kind of traffic operating in/through it. The 9-coach express with 4-6-0 loco on the shelves will be difficult to fit in any design in that space, unfortunately. But not impossible - there's always a way!
  4. Looking at other track plans can be a very dangerous pastime when you’re trying to make your mind up! You need to have a clear idea of what you really want - and on that subject, you are talking about a BLT but your plan above shows orange outline boards completing a roundy round. Which are you going for? Of course a roundy round plan can still feature a BLT but, as you’ve already noted, there are lots of BLT models out there based on a relatively small number of prototypes. There were many more small prototype through stations and a lot of them were mesmerisingly charming…
  5. Thanks William, I don’t think I’d describe my progress as striding or confident! I don’t make half as much progress as I’d like to and the upcoming stages are the scenic elements where I’m worried that my modelling skills and artistic sense might fall short. Of course it helps that I’m prepared to use RTR parts where possible. But maybe that also means the end result will lack the sort of finesse that I think you’re striving for… We will find out the answers in due course!
  6. Don't get too far ahead with baseboard construction until you've got the plan fully worked out! You might be building stuff that has to be taken apart again and/or that restricts the plan.
  7. Similar here. Clicking the notifications icon sometimes opens the popup quickly but very commonly "hourglasses" for a long time before it opens. Posting/Editing comments or messages sometimes leaves the display in the "Saving..." state for a long time before it updates (if ever). So you're not sure if your message has been sent or if it's safe to just refresh the window.
  8. Yes, I agree that lines in that kind of position are not always passenger bays and even if they are they are not "illegal" in models - they did occur in the real world. It's just that we modellers reach for them a bit too readily! The OP says, "the track is used as a terminus platform for short train sets. Especially the rail bus class 122 Diesel Rail car", so in this case it's clearly a bay platform in the sense that I meant. Although Clark shows the second platform at Minehead as a "bay" I would suggest that's a historical name from the original station layout and it's really a fully-fledged second platform, similar to Newquay, Kingswear, St Ives, etc.
  9. Hi Rupert, Plan 5 is a very conventional way to compress a small BLT into a tight space. The bay platform is something of a cliché that appears more in models than it did in real life. The kickback engine shed off the bay will be difficult to operate. Your suggested coaling/fueling position is a bit unconventional - you'd normally expect that to be associated with the engine shed. Taking Padstow as inspiration, notice that it didn't have an engine shed or a bay platform so if you left them out of your design you could get some valuable space back for characteristic coastal scenery/buildings and/or get more space to enhance the goods facilities. It might be possible to have a loop through your goods/transshipment shed. Maybe even room for a small carriage siding. You could also gain some space by allowing part(s) of the station to follow the approach curve
  10. Is that someone crouching over the near crossover points? Possibly unclipping them??? (A good pose for a new Modelu figure. )
  11. This looks very good! Have you thickened parts over the prototype dimensions to ensure they will print? What printer did you use?
  12. I find on my Pi-Sprog system that it randomly changes the state of the "Progamming on Main" / "Edit Only" radio buttons. When it is in "Edit only" mode then the comprehensive programmer window takes a long time to open and, of course, won't change anything. Simply changing the radio switch to "Programming on Main" gets things working again.
  13. A lot of branch lines were originally built by independent companies and, for them, the terminus was quite possibly the focus of their attention, rather than being some distant outpost. So they might feel it important to have a shed at their "base". Many branch lines were built in the Victorian era - a different environment with a different way of thinking: Manpower was cheap and readily available - so employing men to look after the engine at the terminus was not such a problem as it became in later years. Changes in the cost of manpower and improvements in loco technology resulted in engine sheds at BLTs being closed over time, even while the line was still working. [Speculation] It may have been felt necessary to provide a shed to deal with minor problems on the early locos to ensure that a reliable service could be maintained. P.S. I don't buy into the Local Shunting reason because many of these branch lines were operated on a "one engine in steam" basis - i.e. only one loco allowed in the station at any time unless special measures were taken. So the branch loco would be the only one doing the shunting and there would be plenty of time to do that built into the timetable.
  14. Yes, I was wondering why the previous thread was deleted. It's really bad form to delete any topic unless it's grossly wrong or contravenes the forum rules because it may contain ongoing discussion (as in this case) or information that might be useful to others in the future. It also makes you question why you bothered to contribute to it in the first place and whether it will be worth helping the OP in the future!
  15. I started thinking about the platforms and decided to remove the cork so that they could be fixed more solidly. At times I wondered why I'd glued it all down so carefully and was then ripping it up again but it went fairly easily once I'd got into the swing of it... Ah well... Now I'm working out how to actually build the platforms. The top is 1mm card to get the correct thickness for the paving overhang. The face is 1mm card with a 2mm wide strip of card glued along the top edge to create simple corbelling. The structural surface of the platform is 5mm foamboard supported every ~250mm by piers made of two layers of foamboard and 1 layer of 2mm card. In combination, and assuming that glues will add a fraction more height, that build-up gives the correct height of the platform surface of 3ft (12mm) above rail level. It's a lightweight construction for a portable layout and it should allow me to pin things to the platform surface so that they are fixed but can be moved. I need to work out a way to hold the wall exactly upright and at the exact distance back from the platform edge to create a consistent overhang - and do all that following the curves at the ends of the platforms and under the curved edges of the platform ramps...
  16. Passenger platform unfeasibly thin and failing BoT requirements. Probably best to let the OP work out what he wants and what fits in his space, which he has told us is bigger than the Ashleigh plan but by how much we don't yet know.
  17. Comments: You have to keep the bay all or partially clear to get in and out of the engine shed. There's no room to leave vans or wagons standing anywhere - no real goods yard. You need to re-shunt the goods shed every 2 vans because there's only room for one being unloaded and one pushed through. Clearances for running round two coaches look very tight. It all feels unbalanced - too much passenger, too little goods. Suggestions: You could possibly use a 3-way turnout and you'd get even more length in the sidings and the loop. It might be better to imagine a really small station to fit in your confined space - the facilities would fit more naturally then, more balanced. The fiddle yard needs to be thought about as integral part of the design.
  18. If you've got more space than shown, consider curving the main line / platform line to make the plan more dynamic.
  19. Yes, the engine shed could come off the run round loop and be placed where the signal box is currently shown. The engine shed will take up a lot of space and will hide the loco inside it so you could consider showing just the front end of it and using the open line in front for ash, coal and water. The part of the shed that you do model would then act as the view blocker to hide the junction to the fiddle yard. Yes, the bay platform could be the goods shed siding with a fence along the back of the platform. Move the signal box behind the main line.
  20. Still on the electricals, I have replaced the 7805 with one of the mini LM2596 "Buck Converters" that @St Enodoc recommended. Thanks John! I had to buy a bag of 6 for ~£12 so you can see that they are cheap commodity items. I'm sure the other 5 will come in useful one day. While I had the socket panel out of the layout I installed an HDMI pass-through socket and wired up a dual USB socket so that I can now plug and unplug keyboard, monitor and mouse without having to fold up the layout or get underneath some other way. This makes it a more plugin-and-play unit. Here's the panel back in the layout with the new voltage converter circuit in the middle. You can just see a heat transfer pad underneath the converter to help dissipate heat into the panel. It's all working fine and, so far, it runs very cool. To the right of the converter is the new HDMI socket and the USB sockets are at the far end: I just need to tidy up the cables and that should be the electrics done. (I'm not going to think about occupancy detection or working signals yet.)
  21. Hi Clive, Probably the obvious solution would be: Millhampton (double track through station) down one side, fiddle yard and Lyneworth down the other, (overlapping to some extent so that each has the room it needs), simple double-track non-scenic lifting/duck-under section across the doorway, big scenic countryside curve at the far end (inc. tunnel, canal, archery club, whatever). If the garage door still opens then that could allow you to do more at the scenic end than you could do in a fully walled room but on the downside it will always be colder and more draughty. So if you haven't already, you need to decide about the garage door before you get too far with planning the layout. You may or may not want a traditional fiddle yard. It could possibly be dressed us as part of Lyneworth station but that would change the character of that station and a set of loops acting as a FY holding disparate stock would never look or operate like any real part of the railway (That I know of). If you have any non-scenic areas (i.e. fiddle yard and/or the section across the doorway) then you will have to disguise the transition from on-scene to off using scenic breaks such as bridges, tunnels, cuttings, or simple view-blockers. If you have any transitions like this, do you really need a separate tunnel in the scenic part as well?
  22. Ooh, You've opened a right can of worms! I feel this topic is going to run and run so maybe worth adding some codicils to the opening post?
  23. Since the legal status of some of these railways has been questioned and the level of interest may be in doubt: I hereby state for the record that the Culm Valley Light Railway and the Lampeter, Aberayron and New Quay Light Railway were Interesting Light Railways Operated by the Big Four, henceforth known as ILR4s.
  24. In Wales (working around the compass gradually Northwards) another light railway eventually absorbed by the GWR: was the Lampeter, Aberayron and New Quay Light Railway. Opened with optimistic celebrations in 1911, it never reached Newquay and never made a profit. The line lasted until 1973, by which time it had been truncated and was working only milk traffic. Here’s one layout on RMWeb:
  25. A very well-known light railway in GWR territory was the Culm Valley Light Railway. The terminus station, Hemyock, with its eccentric plan, compact proportions and picturesque location, has been modelled several times and has inspired many fictional layouts.
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