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I say, steady on - I went to the pub instead <hic>

It would be 0.27% too short?

Here: http://www.lnwrs.org.uk/Sales/portfolio15.php Mind you, paint them in LCDR livery and I doubt most modellers would tell the difference Richard

You are assuming the measurement only refers to the length. These are different carriages If it helps, I can't identify different classes of GWR pannier, they all look the same to me Richard

The LNWR built both 30' and 30' 1" carriages - they are different (there's a reason and I can't remember what it is) And no, I'm not bothered about the panelling. A 30' 1" chassis could take all sorts of etched bodies or carriage sides on a flatted down carcase Richard

Would you like to see my Campbeltown and Machrihanish brake van? Richard

Somewhere along the line you missed that I'm also an 009 modeller Richard

Oh yes. a 30' carriage looks quite different to a 30' 1" Completely different class and era Richard

So, I want these carriages to be a scale 30' 1" long Richard

Hi Richard, take the horizontal beading off the middle of the end panels, please. That makes them far more valuable for conversion Otherwise, well done on doing something different. Richard

But 'anything' does not equal RTR . There is plenty of stuff for even pretty obscure railways, if that's what floats your boat. You're not going to take it out of a box and run it straight away though. And to be fair, I rarely take any modelling item out of a box and use it as is, which I guess confirms I'm not the target market for these And I'm now remembering (I think) Tebay, a 00 model on the LNWR featured in Railway Modeller in probably the early 70s. ISTR it had a slightly modified LNER B12 to represent an Experiment... Richard

I think you are missing the point - I'm not sneering at anything. Good luck to Hattons, these look like they will sell very well I'm just bemused by the amount of positivity for them being posted on this forum. If they were not-really-BR-standards but painted in BR livery, the'd be torn to pieces here. As they are for railways people don't know much about, they seem to be great I'm just finding that a bit odd And as I'm not the target market, it doesn't matter a damn* Richard *Actually, it's worse than that - I model in 009 so have no credibility left anyway

I've been sitting on my hands trying not to point that one out...

That's because you have a different approach to modelling to most pre-grouping modellers. That's absolutely fine, this is a hobby, it's supposed to be relaxing and fun To me, six wheeled pretend carriages are not fun, they aren't for me or I suspect for most modellers of pre-grouping companies. I/they are really, really interested in detail differences between items Richard

To hell with your pretty colours. All locomotives will be black!

Not up in arms exactly, just a bit bemused by the reaction. Richard

Then you are in luck! I have several Triang clerestories I can sell you Richard

I'm still finding the reaction here rather odd. Put out a Genesis BR carriage because they all look the same and they'd be torn to pieces Put out a Genesis 'Pre-Grouping' carriage - yes that's OK. They all look the same apart from the colours. Those 'pre-grouping' guys* will be happy to have anything And on this forum Tri-ang Clerestory carriages get short shrift, the Hornby S&D carriage is unacceptable and there is a thread running on what is exactly the right chassis to put under an RTR H&BR refrigerated van! We are a funny lot, railway modellers. Good luck with this Hattons, it looks like they will sell well. As a L&NWR enthusiast I'd only buy them to cut about Richard *Whatever they are

I wonder if there is an opportunity to get Worsley Works to make GER bodies to fit reworked Hatton's chassis? Richard

DA39: http://www.springsidemodels.com/id17.htm Richard

How do you find working with Vacform, Darius? I've never tried it but have been curious - it looks like scratchbuilding with some of the difficult shapes done for you Richard

This is what's giving me a break from railway modelling at the moment: She's a 1/32 scratchbuilt Neiuport X seaplane that I've been working at on and off for ages. I've already done the floats It's slowly nearing completion Richard

That's invisible thread with Bob's Buckles eyelets and tubes. I'm just starting to make my own eyelets and experimenting with what size tool to use The exceptions are bits of copper wire between the ailerons and the horns, and a couple of pieces of flat etch to link the ailerons together from RB Productions. I'm afraid I don't have the rigging diagram for N500, so I used the first size that came to hand... Richard

Ahh, I'm not the only aero modeller here then! I just finished this: It's a Roden kit modified to represent N500 Some bits modified, and a new empennage made: The Roden kit has a major problem, the fuselage is too short for the production Tripes, there is an aftermarket kit to fix that. The alternative is to make the parts to match the fuselage. I rarely go for the easy option Richard

Only @RedgateModels can answer this Richard