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  1. Note that because a BG has no toilet(s), there's no tank fillers on the ends. The other use served by the tank filler pipe is to act as a handrail for the end / roof access steps. So non-toilet ends have handrails instead of the filler pipes. They are made from the same steel tube / pipe as the fillers, but have flattened ends bolted to the body, instead of being mounted through flat brackets. On a BG, there is also a short grab rail on the roof on the 'step' side in place where the tank filler pipe would otherwise be. In many cases, the grab rail was removed from the roof and the
  2. The diagrams for the ex. PARROT conversions that were YV 503 and YV 504 were not drawn up and issued far as I know. The conversions were carried out just as the TOPS codes were being allocated, and would have been in Book 350, which covered the Departmental / Service vehicles. There were two basic types - one had supports for two cable drums, the other had three, which could hold a larger cable drum on the middle support and smaller drums on the outer supports.
  3. Just noticed, someone has added B.R. Freight Stock Diagram Book (B) parts 1 and 3 on Barrowmore MRG web-site. Initial look through these are that they have been updated to quite a late version so don't include the obsolescent diagrams. These two parts covering BA - CH and JA - SP.
  4. Thanks SED Freightman for all your help with these. The locomotive diagram books usefully had the issue date shown on each individual diagram page. Unfortunately the various carriage and wagon diagram books didn't. However there are some clues of the rough vintage of a diagram based on the layout of presentation of the information on it, as the style applied by the drawing office changed a few times over the years. By way of example, the diagram for ST 009N is in the last format to come out of BR. Originally, the load or carrying capacity of a wagon was the quoted figu
  5. That's interesting ... your loose pile appears to be the holder of later diagrams. The FV 003 A that you have scanned is the revision ISSUE 1 that put it into the MOTORAIL fleed (AARKND changed to FVW-M). I think the original version of this diagram from before 1983 was FVW-D ? FW 001 A as a BOFLAT was the second holder of this Design Code, which was initially allocated to the CONFLAT I.S.O. conversions of RECTANKs. Not sure how long these lasted, for example if long enough to carry TOPS codes in service. The BOFLAT appears to be the fate of BOPLATEs that didn't get con
  6. BORAILs BR 001A & B are a bit of an anomaly ... why they would have been allocated design codes ahead of the B.R. examples, instead of being coded after them as was the usual practice. Also, BR 001B has the AARKND used for the BORAILs that looked more like BOPLATE - curb rails (very low sides as seen on some BOGIE BOLSTERs, etc.) and no bolsters, however the vehicle depicted clearly fits neither ? I seem to remember the same confusion occurring with certain bogie SALMON in the engineers fleet that some diagrams showed bolsters, but the wagons themselves had sides / curbs and no
  7. The ends started to be removed when the lengthways cradles were fitted. Looking at some of the wagons in service around the time, like they had been butchered quite brutally with a gas-axe. The purpose was to make loading over the ends easier, to stop the crane operators putting the nut on the wagon ends on the way in. The cradles on the BAA / BAB wagons with AARKND ending 'F' as they had been previously were described as 'removable' so presumably a nut-and-bolt job, whereas the couple of BBA diagrams issued specifically for cradles don't seem to include the removable feature, and
  8. That's interesting ... I did wonder if the first batch of BAA were also candidates for the 'flimsy' / removable transverse cradles as were the other batches, before they were all transferred to various other diagrams. Some were already given BKA with the 'kinky beams' for lengthways loading of four large coils. There was a later conversion with much more substantial (and presumably permanently fixed) transverse cradles - think it was four per wagon ? The existence of ISSUE 3 of the BA 001A diagram at least means there was an intent, though not necessarily that any wagons were actually fitted w
  9. Many Thanks, SED Freightman. Much appreciated. Having set away to make a spreadsheet of the Design Codes and what books the various revisions of them lurk in between the books I have, those on Barrowmore and the gaps that your scanning has usefully filled, I hadn't contemplated just how long it would take ! Anyway, I now have a list that makes some sense of the B.R. (B) and Book 320 parts. What I'll do is add some titles to the code groups to make it a bit more 'readable' and then post it on here. Could I trouble you please for a further trawl through your books and loo
  10. SED Freightman : As well as VW 002A that you had spotted I had missed off my list, I've also missed off VP 004A - can you have a look if you have that one as well please ?
  11. Was the mass exodus of 12 T VANFITs in the early '70s around about the same time parcels traffic was disappearing off the railways ? A cull at this stage would have fortuitously saved someone a sizeable job entering all of them onto TOPS. I remember the rail blue SPVs that had been repurposed from FISH vans also going around this same period - including the body of E 87009 randomly appearing in the middle of a field at Sadberge near Darlington. The 1N21 / 1D21 Doncaster Works Test Train that used to run round at Tyne Yard or Darlington, etc. depending on its progress managed to gai
  12. Are you meaning MC 011B in the earlier scanned images ? If so, it's the stiffening bars that some of the pre-nationalisation types had. Ones of L.M.S. origin in this instance. Although not amongst the above scans, the various diagram MC 001 variants are the B.R. 1/108 MINs. Design codes / diagrams MC 001A to D are the re-bodied ones (diag. B.R. 1/99) with various types of brakegear. MC 001E to J cover the non-rebodied B.R. 1/108 again with various forms of brakegear - unfitted, vac, with and without empty/loaded changeover. Partial replating was simply counted as repair, so would n
  13. Thanks ever so much for all the scanning you've been doing. In theory the diagrams that I hadn't requested are the ones that survived to revision 4 so I have copies of in my post-'83 books albeit possibly at later issue than the originals you have in your copy, or they are air braked and tucked away in the last part of the weirdly re-organised early book 320 that I have, but you've got me on VW 002A ... it should have been on my list but I missed it, if you have it please ? Revision Letter 1 is what got you from the B.R. (B) series books into the first issue of Book 320
  14. Yep, till the mid-'80s the TOPS code VVV just about covered all sorts of anything with doors and a roof that reflected many different by then past traffics which had by then coalesced into what could be described as no better than sundries. Then all of a sudden there was a vast clearout and all the interesting stuff evaporated ... mostly into farmers' fields, other than what picked up departmental prefixes, or internal user numbers. Fruit and Ale to finish, that's two of your five-a-day ... what a result ! One thing about cattle vans : The dia. 354 ones were drawn the o
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