DRM Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Hi Paul Yer driving trains is great fun. Got the dubious privilege of driving OTM's. If you need any info on tampers let me know. Keep up the great work can't wait. Take care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4474 Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I had little to do with E train when working in the APT project group but I did have a ride on PoP train (note the lower case 'o' as it was usually written this way). What I remember most is the noise level in the unfurnished, all metal cabin. When going over a rail joint it wasn't far off threshold of pain level. The floor was partly metal mesh so that the bogie could be observed in flight as it were and if you had seen the way it leapt around you would have been very wary about getting on a train again. I think by this time the original swinging arm trailer bogie as shown on the various photos connected with this topic had been replaced by an H3X bogie, the prototype of the BT11 used on APT-P. Perhaps someone could confirm this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) I had little to do with E train when working in the APT project group but I did have a ride on PoP train (note the lower case 'o' as it was usually written this way). What I remember most is the noise level in the unfurnished, all metal cabin. When going over a rail joint it wasn't far off threshold of pain level. The floor was partly metal mesh so that the bogie could be observed in flight as it were and if you had seen the way it leapt around you would have been very wary about getting on a train again. I think by this time the original swinging arm trailer bogie as shown on the various photos connected with this topic had been replaced by an H3X bogie, the prototype of the BT11 used on APT-P. Perhaps someone could confirm this. I should know who you are, but I don't. The SA bogies were originally replaced with E1Ts on the outer ends, and then in all three positions, but POP also had the E1 power bogies in the outer positions at some stage. When it was skinned the outer bogies were H4Xs, the same as the ones fitted to Lab 4 Hastings, and AFAIK those four were the only H4Xs ever made. Later on real live BT11s were fitted. Edited September 27, 2016 by Mr_Tilt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4474 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Click on this link and look at the first photo thereon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Gresley_Classes_A1_and_A3 Regards, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelpara Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Click on this link and look at the first photo thereon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNER_Gresley_Classes_A1_and_A3 Regards, Mike A1 steam locos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 As for payment, was going to issue a queue number, so you only pay when your model kit is ready for posting. I was thinking of using paypal, something I need to look into further. Going to put a section of the website (www.apt-e.org) so everyone knows which kit I am currently working on. Does this mean you have a list somewhere of those interested in buying one? If so, how would I add myself to it please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 ^ and add me too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 3, 2016 Author Share Posted October 3, 2016 Hi All, Not much progress this week, work gets in the way of better things, but presently working on Prototype 7 both in 00 and N, so keep the faith.................... When the time comes I am going to get interested parties to email me off web, and I will reply with your ticket number, hope that's fare to everyone interested. Please remember that these are being made to order. Will post some updates by the weekend. Regards Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Hi Paul. Hope you are ok and things are going well. Silly question but how do you email off web ?. Still finding my round the RMweb. Many thanks Darren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Hi Paul. Hope you are ok and things are going well. Silly question but how do you email off web ?. Still finding my round the RMweb. Many thanks Darren. Hi Darren, bit of a typo on that last message, should have said off RMWeb LOL. My email is paul@apt-e.org Thanks Paul Edited October 8, 2016 by experimental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Hi All, A little later than promised, but here is prototype 7 completed, minus the HK brake pipes which I forgot to fit lol. The white flecks on some of the photos, are the black PLA catching the light, not a rough finish. I am pretty happy with it, looks the biz next to E train. Any feedback welcome. Regards Paul Edited October 10, 2016 by experimental 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Craftmanship/Clever doesnt even begin to cover it but its all we have got, that is excellent work, when does production start? Is it time to bombard you with an email or do I have to hold fire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRM Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Paul. That is amassing my Freind. The work that goes in to something like that is incredible, you deserve to be very proud. You take care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 A few more pictures..................... Gonna do a few running tests on my test track, if all goes ok, will open the order book, lol. Regards Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 Craftmanship/Clever doesnt even begin to cover it but its all we have got, that is excellent work, when does production start? Is it time to bombard you with an email or do I have to hold fire? Hi, Thank you very , for the kind words, very much appreciated. If testing goes ok, then will be open for orders sometime next week (fingers crossed). Thanks Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 Paul. That is amassing my Freind. The work that goes in to something like that is incredible, you deserve to be very proud. You take care. Hi , Thanks for the support. As said previous, if running testing goes ok, might be able to open the pre-order book next week sometime. Regards Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I was up at Paul's on Sunday night before we went to the NRM for a meeting about the E-Train (the real 1:1 scale E-Train I mean ) and I saw his prototype #7 in the plastic while he was assembling it. It looks even BETTER for real than it does in the pics as you can see it much more clearly, and the new, finer printing process that he's managed to develop makes a huge difference to the look of POP-Train. It's much more 'spidery' than his earlier versions and from close up it looks just like the original one. I'm most impressed. Building the kits will be quite time consuming but will be a lot of fun I'm sure, as there's loads of parts to assemble, many of them looking very similar to each other, so I suggested that we supply a copy of my POP-Train drawing with each kit to act as a reference. So I'M going into production on the drawings before much longer too. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Hi All, Any people interested in a 00 gauge POP model, please can you email leadleykits@apt-e.org and I will beging building a order list, ready for when production starts, also gives me an idea what I have let myself in for lol. I will email you with a ticket number, first come , first served . Price is £68 with delivery. Please note , no decals are going to be supplied , but all you really need are PC3 and 4 labels which are shown on the drawings being supplied. Regards Paul Edited October 12, 2016 by experimental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 I was up at Paul's on Sunday night before we went to the NRM for a meeting about the E-Train (the real 1:1 scale E-Train I mean ) and I saw his prototype #7 in the plastic while he was assembling it. It looks even BETTER for real than it does in the pics as you can see it much more clearly, and the new, finer printing process that he's managed to develop makes a huge difference to the look of POP-Train. It's much more 'spidery' than his earlier versions and from close up it looks just like the original one. I'm most impressed. Building the kits will be quite time consuming but will be a lot of fun I'm sure, as there's loads of parts to assemble, many of them looking very similar to each other, so I suggested that we supply a copy of my POP-Train drawing with each kit to act as a reference. So I'M going into production on the drawings before much longer too. Thanks Mr Tilt, great stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2016 Hi All, Any people interested in a POP model, please can you email leadleykits@apt-e.org and I will beging building a order list, ready for when production starts, also gives me an idea what I have let myself in for lol. I will email you with a ticket number, first come , first served . Price is £68 inc vat and delivery. Please note , no decals are going to be supplied , but all you really need are PC3 and 4 labels which are shown on the drawings being supplied. Regards Paul Totally out of my time zone but will look good parked on Deadman's Lane.... email sent. Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Tilt Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) Totally out of my time zone but will look good parked on Deadman's Lane.... email sent. Cheers, Mick You could always paint it yellow Mick......... Edited October 11, 2016 by Mr_Tilt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2016 You could always paint it yellow Mick......... One day I'll paint something yellow, even though it shouldn't be........................... (And then put Network Rail stickers on it and sell it on eBay for a huge profit - anyone got a spare APT-E they don't need?) Cheers, Mick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRail Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Hi All, Any people interested in a POP model, please can you email leadleykits@apt-e.org and I will beging building a order list, ready for when production starts, also gives me an idea what I have let myself in for lol. I will email you with a ticket number, first come , first served . Price is £68 inc vat and delivery. Please note , no decals are going to be supplied , but all you really need are PC3 and 4 labels which are shown on the drawings being supplied. Regards Paul Paul have just emailed requesting to be added on the list Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John ks Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Hi All, Any people interested in a POP model, please can you email leadleykits@apt-e.org and I will beging building a order list, ready for when production starts, also gives me an idea what I have let myself in for lol. I will email you with a ticket number, first come , first served . Price is £68 inc vat and delivery. Please note , no decals are going to be supplied , but all you really need are PC3 and 4 labels which are shown on the drawings being supplied. Regards Paul Paul I might be interested in 1 & at £68 inc vat and delivery it seems a reasonable price But (there's always a but) as I live a bit further away than most of your prospective customers (Australia) how will this affect vat & postage Are bogies & Wheel sets included Are the axles the fairly common length of 26mm. The reason I ask about the axle length is that Intermountain, a US company has recently started to produce Ball-Bearing wheel sets in 33" (9.5mm) & 36" (10.5mm) in HO If either of these sizes are close enough to the POP train wheels then I will use these wheels assuming I purchase one of your POP trains John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
experimental Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Paul I might be interested in 1 & at £68 inc vat and delivery it seems a reasonable price But (there's always a but) as I live a bit further away than most of your prospective customers (Australia) how will this affect vat & postage Are bogies & Wheel sets included Are the axles the fairly common length of 26mm. The reason I ask about the axle length is that Intermountain, a US company has recently started to produce Ball-Bearing wheel sets in 33" (9.5mm) & 36" (10.5mm) in HO If either of these sizes are close enough to the POP train wheels then I will use these wheels assuming I purchase one of your POP trains John Hi John. Yes, the model includes the bogies and wheels, and yes they are the normal 26mm, the wheelsets are actually held via a centre support frame so various sizes could be used. I would have to enquire about the postage costs to Australia, I will get back to you on that as soon as I can. Regards Paul Edited October 12, 2016 by experimental Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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