RMweb Premium Dava Posted August 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 16, 2018 17.95 is quite steep for a paperback book on a 3 mile branch line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 17, 2018 Author Share Posted August 17, 2018 took my plane down to the club earlier and started planing down the edges of the parts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Ernie has uploaded 2 more very interesting photos of Eyemouth the first one is useful as otherwise i wouldnt have known that have after a dozen yards past the building, the platform and retaining wall were timber and there is a bench set into the wall https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/43327202714/in/feed second gives a good close up and colour look at the bufferstop and building https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/43327201754/in/feed Edited August 20, 2018 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 17.95 is quite steep for a paperback book on a 3 mile branch line? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Eyemouth-Branch-by-Roger-C-Jermy-9780853613640-Paperback-2018/302833543047?epid=2293326330&hash=item4682492787:g:57UAAOSwmcZbaC7K Got mine off E Bay from wordery £11-98 post free Its an Oakwood Title (Oakwoods now part of Stenlake), buts its on decent paper unlike the Stenlake publications. The ca 1929 aerial photo on page 80 is from a glass negative I acquired and have passed on to the Armstrong Trust. Ernie Ernie Edited August 20, 2018 by Irishswissernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishswissernie Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 A couple of enlargments from my original scan of the glass plate which may be of some use. The Water Tank appears to have had a planked cover back in 1929 Ernie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) another 2 good photos, the top one showing what looks lie a weighbridge office, the second photo is odd as on the right hand track above the barrow crossing what looks like a pit by the shadow on the inside of the left hand rail and there is a large area to the right of the track that looks like a pile of ash after seeing this and looking back at the photos i can see the pile, such as in this one to the right of the loco and from this angle i didnt notice the weighbridge office as it looks like its part fo the house behind Edited August 20, 2018 by sir douglas 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOCJACOB Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) I like the latest image of NBR 828 at Eyemouth. There is the same image (cropped) in Steam Days 1999 credited to J Wood a photographer from Coldingham and its also in NBRSG archive Also visible is the wooden stairway access at the end of the platform. Also Eyemouth is unique in the ex NBR system in not having a run round loop. For the record Railway Modeller 3/75 has copies of 4mm scale plans of the station building and states the sack store, at time of recording, was ex LNWR Gunpowder wagon. Also articles in Railway Bylines 8-9/97 and Steam Days 2/99 The ash and the pit may be explained with the fact that Railway Bylines article states the engine was stabled overnight at Eyemouth until 1919. At this time 10 hour shifts were standard and the driver was responsible for washouts and routine maintenance. The fireman (according to the NBR Rule book of the time) was to be at the station at least 2 hours before start time to get up the fire. A cleaner was employed permanent nights and his job included coaling the locomotive etc. All of this is sort of logical as first train in AM started from Eyemouth. Its also says that on switching to 8 hour days the the working arrangements were revised and branch locomotives sent light from Berwick upon Tweed. This further changed in 1924 when Berwick upon Tweed closed. The same article however says there were locomotive facilities and no pit at Eyemouth and clearly the enlarged images suggests otherwise, you live and learn Edited August 20, 2018 by DOCJACOB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) i know about the stairs, and it did have a run round loop that was later removed, which we will have back in for our layout so we can round round, ive already got the drawings from the modeller, i'll have to keep an eye out for the bylines Edited August 21, 2018 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 with a much cooler temperature, i was able get most of the planing done in about 2 hours today, i tried doing some on Monday night but it was too hot, and was covered in sweat after 5 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted August 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hi again, Managed today to get a good look at the new book. Other than the drawing (same one as in the RM?) the most useful stuff are some more photos. That said, from what you've shown here I am not sure the book would offer anything to assist the model. (As far as the book is concerned I think that's something of a pity). It does, however, seem to contain a lot of information about the village and its surrounding area. Hope that's of use/interest. Regards, Alex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) all except the last 2 of the stretcher profile have been drawn, and ive started cutting them the reason for the last 2 not being done is that im not exactly sure about the ramp from the goods yard at rail level to the entrance at platform level, ive got i mostly figured out but i'll leave those 2 for today Edited February 19, 2019 by sir douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Great project idea! Will follow with interest. Regards Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I picked up a copy of the new book at Telford Guildex show yesterday. I thought it was excellent. Lots of new info especially about stock and traffic on the line. Suggests as well that the run round loop could have gone as early as 1906. Also got all the parts for the pointwork ordered. Back from holidays now so can get to work helping Sam, and continuing to build the stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 the profile of the last 2 frames stretchers were consulted with Mark last night and ive got them all cut out today and made a start cutting timber for the joining blocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 its not fully decided yet but we night back date the layout to about 1905 to have the run round points legitimately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Post 1905 should still give you a set of rolling stock to play with NBR/LNER/BR. As long as you can swap out signs and buildings as the paint changes you should be fine. Not sure how much pre 1905 NBR stock there is out there. If I think about it there isn't that much NBR stock out there regardless of the era. The lack of a run round should make things more interesting to operate. Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 were going with 1903-5 ish just before the points came out another decision is that there was a siding about half a mile up at Biglawburn laid in 1908 for the trawler the diesel fuel, we can represent this just the other side of the Toll bridge in front of the fiddleyard, we are both happy with forgetting this gap of a few yars between the points coming out and the siding being laid so we can have the extra running capabilities of having the extra siding, but doing a quick doodle on paint show that there isnt enough room in the fiddle yard after adding it and the next bridge up from the toll as the scenic break 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Backdating the stock should be not a problem. New book confirms that branch loco around 1903. period was Number 828 of what later became the LNER J83 class. This was a Westinghouse fitted loco which later worked in Edinburgh. I have built one of these as number 808 which was a steam braked shunter. There is details of the build on my "Shezs workbench" thread. I don"t want to be hacking her around - she looks too nice as it is - so it looks like another of the Jim McGeowan kits to build 828! ( Though the picture on the box is of the rebuilt LNER version he supplies the alternative parts in the kit to backdate it ) Other possibilities ate a J82 or a J31 which could be done through a bit of kit bashing! However not everything was recoeded so I think we could justify anything that Berwick had up to the correct NBR route availability. The coaches are already in hand if you look at the "NBR six wheel coaches" thread - using the etches drawn for us by Jamie Guest - one etch is going to have to be hacked in half for the four wheel brake! Correct brake vans are from Dragon models - can be built as the early variant - they also have various wagons for the NBR some of which are early enough. The Parkside three plank and Jubillee wagons are also fine. One thing the book confirms is that hardly any of the stock changed up to the mid 1920s when they acquired two Gresley coaches. In August 1924 the Tweedmouth shed took over running the line. There is a photo on Page 84 of McLeans NBR album which shows an Eyemouth branch mixed train with three coaches and two covered fish Wagons. Despite the motive power being ex NER J21 number 152 ( she is on the to build list!) the train is pretty much the same stock as in the photos from the early period. NER loco - NBR train. Same with infrastructure - photos of the 1950s show the same gas lamps and the same station nameboard. One interesting aspect revealed by the info on the working timetables in the new book is that all but two of the trains per day were mixed. Its therefore more of a shunting layout than a conventional branch terminus. Trains don't just arrive and leave - everything has to be split and reformed - so there can be pretty much continuous movement even with only one engine in steam. I am working out a sequence based on the timetable. There is a surprising amount of NBR stuff out there - so all get looking at those great little branch terminus possibilities around Edinburgh and the Lothians! ( Polton, Penicuick, Haddington, Mussulburgh, Gullane, to name but some, or North Berwick or Corstorphine if you fancy something more ambitious) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted September 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2018 Managed today to get a good look at the new book. Other than the drawing (same one as in the RM?) the most useful stuff are some more photos. That said, from what you've shown here I am not sure the book would offer anything to assist the model. (As far as the book is concerned I think that's something of a pity). It does, however, seem to contain a lot of information about the village and its surrounding area. Hope that's of use/interest. Mine arrived today. Wordery have sold out, so paid full price. Which is disappointing, as at the reduced price, it’s ok. At full price, it is “Eyemouth and its Railway”. It also perpetuates an error in a photo caption: that’s not a J21 on the viaduct at the head of NBR coaches, but a Drummond 0-6-0 of the North British - look at the cab sides, and it is obvious. I suspect Class D (J34). Useful info on traffic, though. Ernie has uploaded 2 more very interesting photos of Eyemouth the first one is useful as otherwise i wouldnt have known that have after a dozen yards past the building, the platform and retaining wall were timber and there is a bench set into the wall https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/43327202714/in/feed If you look at the bottom LH corner, you can see that the crossing vee has lots of chairs supporting it, an arrangement found on interlaced sleepers, but not point timbers, so the sidings at least had interlaced sleepering at the date of the photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Last week saw the start of cutting timber and screwing them to the board stretchers ready to assemble the first board, after this photo, the track bed was cut out and screwed down i got Shez to print out the templot plan for me since i dont have a printer and this morning all the pages are now glued together Edited February 19, 2019 by sir douglas 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) Last Wednesday the middle angle brace was screwed in and today the other two as well, after that the track bed was screwed back on after being removed to do the bracing the board shown here stood on its end to test how strong it is against being bent and skewed which it doesnt at all and how much wobble it has which is minimal shown here with the track bed back on the first stretcher of the next board (E) has been planed to so that the edges meet up for the track bed, road and river. E was clamped to the end of this first board to drill pilot holes for the pattern makers dowels amd from this the second board can be started Edited February 19, 2019 by sir douglas 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shez Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Picked up a Connisseur kit for a J83 ( Class D NBR) at Keighley on Sunday. Will build into No 828 shown on the black and white photo posted by Sam on 20th August - so we will be able to have the option of backdating stock to the early 1900s. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 the work had to be put on hold while our space was taken up by Stanley so they could prepare for the show last weekend. this meant i havent done anything for many weeks, we have our space back now so i can back to making boards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 we have the space back, a start was made on the second board and with a big bottle of pva, last night was spent taking the first board aprt to put glue into all the joins 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 most of the second board now together,had a morning session yesterday with the help of mark, got the rest of the joining blocks on the frame stretchers before fitting to the back piece. and then last night the front piece was fitted after cutting the profile out taken at the end of the daytime session 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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