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Nigel N

ex RTC MK1's?

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Looking for any info on these 3 MK1's.....

 A BSK and BSO (ADB975082) which were part of the breakdown train at Landore..

  And BSK (ADB975084) which may also have been at Landore, but is pictured here at Margam I believe?

Judging by the red & blue livery, these 3 coaches were once part of the RTC fleet??

Does anyone know anything about them in RTC service Lab or Test Car number, or what they were used for???

 Any help would be greatly appreciated

  -Nigel

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None of the departmentals books that I've got (Lineside/Platform 5, from 1981-85) list them as anything other than breakdown train dormitory/mess vehicles, or at least 975082/084 - do you have a number for the other vehicle in the photos? Or a date for the photos?

 

From those books:

 

975082 was W9261, and 975084 was W34756.

975083 was also listed as a breakdown train vehicle, ex-W34632, and 975085 ex-S34622

 

82 based at Landore

83 Severn Tunnel Jn

84 Margam

85 Cardiff

 

A batch, 975082/83/84/85, was converted in 1970/71 on lot 3749 by Cathays C&W

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Don't forget the red/blue livery was also used by the Mechanical & Electrical Engineers department, to whom these coaches belonged. It didn't just signify Research or Derby based stock. AFAIK, these early Mk.1 breakdown train conversions were new in the livery before the switch to yellow was made for later conversions.

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Don't forget the red/blue livery was also used by the Mechanical & Electrical Engineers department.

Interesting - I certainly didn't know that.

 

I wish Bachmann would re-release some of those ex Modelzone coaches.

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Don't forget the red/blue livery was also used by the Mechanical & Electrical Engineers department, to whom these coaches belonged. It didn't just signify Research or Derby based stock. AFAIK, these early Mk.1 breakdown train conversions were new in the livery before the switch to yellow was made for later conversions.

Thanks, yes it is possible they were M&EE rather than R&D!!

 I also was'nt aware that the red/blue livery was used on breakdown vehicles from new.....

  Maybe it was used on all of this batch of BTU converts, that were done at the same time and all for Welsh depots??

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None of the departmentals books that I've got (Lineside/Platform 5, from 1981-85) list them as anything other than breakdown train dormitory/mess vehicles, or at least 975082/084 - do you have a number for the other vehicle in the photos? Or a date for the photos?

 

From those books:

 

975082 was W9261, and 975084 was W34756.

975083 was also listed as a breakdown train vehicle, ex-W34632, and 975085 ex-S34622

 

82 based at Landore

83 Severn Tunnel Jn

84 Margam

85 Cardiff

 

A batch, 975082/83/84/85, was converted in 1970/71 on lot 3749 by Cathays C&W

Thanks for the info!!

BSO"82" and the other unknown BSK @Landore was taken 1974, BSK "84" @Margam was taken 1983

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IIRC ADB numbers were DM&EE stock and RDB numbers were Research Dept.

That said, the RTC had stock of each series, it depended on the function of the vehicle concerned.

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