LNWR London Road - Locomotives and rolling stock

[Jol Wilkinson]

Hello Philip,

 

I believe he has been getting the castings for the underframe sorted out so they may now be available.

 

Best to ask him directly at;

 

londonroadmodels@btinternet.com

 

Jol

 

 

[Jol Wilkinson]

I've changed to topic title to more accurately reflect the thread content.

 

I hope to start on the "new" LNWR 1907 London Road layout later this year when my eyesight in my right eye has hopefully recovered to a point where I can see what I am doing! I'll start a layout topic when I make a start, probably in the Pre-grouping section.

[Jol Wilkinson]

Well, a sort of start has been made on the layout today. I cut twelve pieces of timber to extend the legs for the existing baseboards to give a 4ft baseboard top surface datum, about 7" higher that it was. The electric mitre saw was set up to do some household DIY, so I was able cut all the timbers to matching lengths. I'll modify the legs in the next couple of days.

 

I didn't get to see the eye surgeon in January as intended so went to see my optician who made a new prescription and new glasses. Sadly, the vision in my right eye has been damaged by the series of operations I had but I am coping with it so have been able to get into doing some DIY that has been outstanding. There was a lot that the new (to us) house needed so I have some catching up to do, although we have been keeping the local specialist tradespeople in work! 

 

I haven't tried any close work for model making yet, so I'll have to se how that goes. I've made a start on sorting out my boxes of tools etc. and it'll be good to set up the two baseboards and get on with planning the new baseboards. I'll have to learn Templot again, something I am not really looking forward to.

[Chas Levin]

2 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

Well, a sort of start has been made on the layout today. I cut twelve pieces of timber to extend the legs for the existing baseboards to give a 4ft baseboard top surface datum, about 7" higher that it was. The electric mitre saw was set up to do some household DIY, so I was able cut all the timbers to matching lengths. I'll modify the legs in the next couple of days.

 

I didn't get to see the eye surgeon in January as intended so went to see my optician who made a new prescription and new glasses. Sadly, the vision in my right eye has been damaged by the series of operations I had but I am coping with it so have been able to get into doing some DIY that has been outstanding. There was a lot that the new (to us) house needed so I have some catching up to do, although we have been keeping the local specialist tradespeople in work! 

 

I haven't tried any close work for model making yet, so I'll have to se how that goes. I've made a start on sorting out my boxes of tools etc. and it'll be good to set up the two baseboards and get on with planning the new baseboards. I'll have to learn Templot again, something I am not really looking forward to.

Glad to hear you've been able to get going again Jol, hope it continues to go well .

[Gravy Train]

A Great thread and very intresting, I remember London Rd back in its infancy, lovely layout.

Peter A L

[Jol Wilkinson]

Hi Peter,

 

great to hear from you. I've just had a look at some of your buildings in another thread. I love the LNWR two road north light engine shed, just what I need for the new version of London Road. I've been looking at kits but will probably scratchbuild one. After a rather difficult year I am just getting back into modelling and will probably start a new topic on the layout soon.

 

Jol

[Gravy Train]

Hi Jol,

thanks for the kind comments, I’m trying to work out what 2rd shed that may be,  don’t think you will regret building your own and look forward to seeing the new layout develop.

 

Peter

 

Edited March 29, 2021 by Gravy Train

[Mrkirtley800]

superb modelling with some really lovely stock.  I was very interested in the LNW and nearly became a North Western modeller, but chose the Midland instead.  Although I have built a few LNW locosand a couple of carriages.

Derek

[Brassey]

8 hours ago, Mrkirtley800 said:

superb modelling with some really lovely stock.  I was very interested in the LNW and nearly became a North Western modeller, but chose the Midland instead.  Although I have built a few LNW locosand a couple of carriages.

Derek

 

Derek your pre-grouping Midland modelling is superb too and some of the best I've seen. It has been inspirational to me as has London Road.  Peter

[Jol Wilkinson]

As threatened I have started a layout topic;

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/163511-london-road-lnwr-1907/

 

As and when I do some more work on stock for the layout I'll post that on this thread as usual.

 

[Jol Wilkinson]

Finally made a start on some modelling again with the tank (body) for the LNWR 2000 gallon tender for the Teutonic. Unfortunately things haven't worked out well as I am still coming to terns with my vision following the detached retina operations. There are several fault on the tender due to my poor assembly of it (it's only about the ninth I have built!) so I have decided to start again and John at LRM has supplied a new brass etch. I'll leave it until I have seen my optician to get some new "close up" glasses.

 

At least I have sorted out my workbench and got it set up, although I'll probably reorganise it a bit as I go along.

 

[Chas Levin]

Sorry to hear you're still having troubles with your eye Jol - hope it gets sorted out soon!

 

Have you ever tried a magnifier lamp on a sprung arm - like this sort of thing: https://uk.farnell.com/pro-elec/pel00797/led-magnifier-lamp/dp/3472624?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8ZWB-OGh8AIVGhoGAB3tfwNnEAQYAiABEgJtz_D_BwE&mckv=_dc|pcrid|505528697456|plid||kword||match||slid||product|3472624|pgrid|118014581206|ptaid|pla-57456869290|&CMP=KNC-GUK-GEN-SHOPPING-SMART-PRIVATELABEL-Test726&gross_price=true

 

I got used to using one at work for electrical work and got one for my bench at home - absolutely invaluable. Looking at things under it you not only have the magnification but the superb lighting too, makes a huge difference. If you get one with a large enough lens you can view the whole model and your tools equally well lit and magnified and see exactly what's happening - I solder looking through it and paint too.

 

I'm also trying to get used to using a headband magnifier - one of these: https://www.eileensemporium.com/materials-for-modellers/product/headband-magnifier-with-led-lamp.

It gives multiple levels of extremely high magnification but keeping your head in the right position takes getting used to...

[Jol Wilkinson]

11 hours ago, Chas Levin said:

Sorry to hear you're still having troubles with your eye Jol - hope it gets sorted out soon!

 

Have you ever tried a magnifier lamp on a sprung arm - like this sort of thing: https://uk.farnell.com/pro-elec/pel00797/led-magnifier-lamp/dp/3472624?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8ZWB-OGh8AIVGhoGAB3tfwNnEAQYAiABEgJtz_D_BwE&mckv=_dc|pcrid|505528697456|plid||kword||match||slid||product|3472624|pgrid|118014581206|ptaid|pla-57456869290|&CMP=KNC-GUK-GEN-SHOPPING-SMART-PRIVATELABEL-Test726&gross_price=true

 

I got used to using one at work for electrical work and got one for my bench at home - absolutely invaluable. Looking at things under it you not only have the magnification but the superb lighting too, makes a huge difference. If you get one with a large enough lens you can view the whole model and your tools equally well lit and magnified and see exactly what's happening - I solder looking through it and paint too.

 

I'm also trying to get used to using a headband magnifier - one of these: https://www.eileensemporium.com/materials-for-modellers/product/headband-magnifier-with-led-lamp.

It gives multiple levels of extremely high magnification but keeping your head in the right position takes getting used to...

Thanks Chas, but it isn't as simple as that.

 

I have used an Optivisor headband magnifier with loupe for over twenty years. The operations to my right eye have left the sight  distorted and my optician hasn't been able to provide a prescription that resolves it at any distance but especially at short range for modelling. I am very short sighted in my left eye and slightly long sighted in the right, so there is an imbalance there, too.

 

Edited to add that this imbalance is a result of the replacement lens in my right eye that was fitted due to the cataract exacerbated by the retinal surgery. I won't bore you with the details as to why a compatible lens to my left eye was not provided.

 

I am coping alright with stuff like diy (so should be okay for the carpentry for the baseboards) but am still learning how to cope with the really close up stuff.

Edited April 29, 2021 by Jol Wilkinson
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[Chas Levin]

21 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

Thanks Chas, but it isn't as simple as that.

 

I have used an Optivisor headband magnifier with loupe for over twenty years. The operations to my right eye have left the sight  distorted and my optician hasn't been able to provide a prescription that resolves it at any distance but especially at short range for modelling. I am very short sighted in my left eye and slightly long sighted in the right, so there is an imbalance there, too.

 

Edited to add that this imbalance is a result of the replacement lens in my right eye that was fitted due to the cataract exacerbated by the retinal surgery. I won't bore you with the details as to why a compatible lens to my left eye was not provided.

 

I am coping alright with stuff like diy (so should be okay for the carpentry for the baseboards) but am still learning how to cope with the really close up stuff.

Hello Jol, I thought you must be familiar with those devices and I didn't want to seem like I was teaching my grandmother to suck eggs (very strange phrase I've always thought, but the correct one here I guess ); there's always a great urge to try to help in a situation like this and I couldn't think what else to suggest.

 

I'm sure things will improve, though it might take a while. From what little I know, I believe that in many cases, when the physical apparatus of vision is damaged or affected, the brain learns to compensate and is gradually able to re-interpret what the eyes send it to provide restored vision, so hopefully that will be the case.

 

Glad you're able to do the DIY stuff in the meantime - at least the layout will benefit .

[Coal Tank]

Hi Jol 

  Hope you are ok, anything happening 

[Jol Wilkinson]

Hello John,

 

unfortunately continued detached retina problem and more recent operations. So not much modelling progress at the moment.

 

Jol

[Jol Wilkinson]

Slowly getting back into some rolling stock, the LNWR 4-4-0 Renown I started several years ago is now finished, with Ian Rathbone having lined the model for me.

 

 

There are pickups on the driving wheels and reat tender wheels. The driving wheels are prototype 3D printed wheels from Bill Bedford but I don't think they went into production. 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Jol Wilkinson
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[Coal Tank]

Hi Jol, that is a lovely engine, and the paint is superb. Can you post a few more from different angles

John 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Coal Tank

[Chas Levin]

Absolutely gorgeous, Jol! Please excuse my lack of familiarity with LNWR livery detail, but presumably that red cab interior (which looks quite Lake-like) was their standard practice? I wonder whether it made the crew feel even hotter...?

[Jol Wilkinson]

16 minutes ago, Chas Levin said:

Absolutely gorgeous, Jol! Please excuse my lack of familiarity with LNWR livery detail, but presumably that red cab interior (which looks quite Lake-like) was their standard practice? I wonder whether it made the crew feel even hotter...?

Hi Chas,

 

the cabs were painted Indian Red (LNWR Liveries, pub. HMRS). I airbrushed the model with black cellulose some time ago but events prevented me from lining it with Fox transfers so I asked Ian Rathbone to line it. He did so, including painting the cab interior (I had alsready done the boiler backhead which was added after final assembly.

 

Jol

[Jol Wilkinson]

On 01/06/2022 at 21:52, Coal Tank said:

Hi Jol, that is a lovely engine, and the paint is superb. Can you post a few more from different angles

John 

John,

 

I only took a couple of photos, here is the other one.

 

 

[Coal Tank]

It really is a beautiful model Jol and the paint is very very nice a bit late for me............. But

[Jol Wilkinson]

On 03/06/2022 at 14:14, Coal Tank said:

It really is a beautiful model Jol and the paint is very very nice a bit late for me............. But

Something a bit earlier, then.

 

This is the 4' 6" Tank (also known as Mansion House Tanks) that I built and painted at the same time as the Renown and subsequently had lined by Ian Rathbone.

 

 

[Compound2632]

22 minutes ago, Jol Wilkinson said:

This is the 4' 6" Tank (also known as Mansion House Tanks) 

 

Is a 4' 6" Tank still a Mansion House Tank if it is non-condensing?

Edited June 5, 2022 by Compound2632

[Jol Wilkinson]

3 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

Is a 4' 6" Tank still a Mansion House Tank if it is non-condensing?

 

I expect that only those condensing gear fitted ones that worked the Mansion House services should properly be so called. Condensing fitted 4' 6" Tanks must have also worked elsewhere, elsewhere, apparently including on Birmingham suburban services,