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DCC Sound is something that I've used for a while now, in my O gauge locomotives but it's something I'll be revisiting for OO, with my new layout and so I thought I'd put this list together and, hopefully, people can add to it.

 

The point of it is to show what sound projects are available and which locomotives thay may suit, other than the specified type that they are actually recorded from. I'm not saying that they will sound exactly alike but if the prototype uses the same type of engine and transmission, they're not going to be a million miles apart, and it's better than nothing.

 

In no particular order:

 

Ruston 48DS - a specific sound file is available but there is one for a 44/48HP (recorded from the narrow gauge version) that would be suitable as it is the same type of engine and gearbox.

 

Class 07 (Ruston LSSE) - the sound file for this may be used in the Yorkshire DE2 as both used the Paxman V6RPHL engine, and both were diesel-electric.

 

Rolls Royce/Sentinel, as per the Hornby model - The sound file for this will work in just about anything else that used a supercharged Rolls Royce engine and a Twin Disc torque converter. That includes Yorkshire Engine Co. hydraulics and Hunslet hydraulics, also larger Thomas Hills and possibly smaller ones, too.

 

YEC 'Half Janus' - A sound is available for this but I'm not sure what else it is suitable for. More information required.

 

YEC Janus - Sounds are available but not all are suitable for all types - more information required.

 

Fowler diesel-mechanical - Sound is available for this and in the absence of anything else this could be suitable for other DMs.

 

BR Class 03 - these used Gardner 8L3 engines and self-changing gearboxes. The engine is the same as used in some Hudswell Clarke DMs and the gearbox is similar in operation, so could be used in these.

 

BR Class 05 - Hunslet-built and so, obviously, suitable for the Hunslet industrial version. Again a Gardner 8L3 but with Hunslet's own transmission, so presumably suits anything else built by Hunslet with this engine and transmission.

 

Ruston 165DS

 

If you have any more to add, or any specific information, please add it.

 

 

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Nothing to add but I have access to a 1:1 scale BR Class 03, Class 08 and Consett/Hunslet diesel mechanical featuring a 4cyl Mirlees engine should anyone want to record such things.  I also have a mile and 3/4 of hill and 250t of metal to sling behind, for audio capture obviously.  Happy to help out if anyone needs audio from the prototype.

 

Something of note, the class 03 has its air compressor and vacuum exhauster driven by belts from the output shafts on the engine, if one was being used in industry it may have had its exhauster removed which makes a big difference to the sound.  Probably being a bit of a nerd here but something to think about for someone maybe?

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3 hours ago, Eccles90 said:

Probably being a bit of a nerd

I think we’re all nerds here... ;)

And welcome!

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On 24/01/2020 at 14:30, Ruston said:

DCC Sound is something that I've used for a while now, in my O gauge locomotives but it's something I'll be revisiting for OO, with my new layout and so I thought I'd put this list together and, hopefully, people can add to it.

 

The point of it is to show what sound projects are available and which locomotives thay may suit, other than the specified type that they are actually recorded from. I'm not saying that they will sound exactly alike but if the prototype uses the same type of engine and transmission, they're not going to be a million miles apart, and it's better than nothing.

 

In no particular order:

 

Ruston 48DS - a specific sound file is available but there is one for a 44/48HP (recorded from the narrow gauge version) that would be suitable as it is the same type of engine and gearbox.

 

Class 07 (Ruston LSSE) - the sound file for this may be used in the Yorkshire DE2 as both used the Paxman V6RPHL engine, and both were diesel-electric.

 

Rolls Royce/Sentinel, as per the Hornby model - The sound file for this will work in just about anything else that used a supercharged Rolls Royce engine and a Twin Disc torque converter. That includes Yorkshire Engine Co. hydraulics and Hunslet hydraulics, also larger Thomas Hills and possibly smaller ones, too.

 

YEC 'Half Janus' - A sound is available for this but I'm not sure what else it is suitable for. More information required.

 

YEC Janus - Sounds are available but not all are suitable for all types - more information required.

 

Fowler diesel-mechanical - Sound is available for this and in the absence of anything else this could be suitable for other DMs.

 

BR Class 03 - these used Gardner 8L3 engines and self-changing gearboxes. The engine is the same as used in some Hudswell Clarke DMs and the gearbox is similar in operation, so could be used in these.

 

BR Class 05 - Hunslet-built and so, obviously, suitable for the Hunslet industrial version. Again a Gardner 8L3 but with Hunslet's own transmission, so presumably suits anything else built by Hunslet with this engine and transmission.

 

If you have any more to add, or any specific information, please add it.

 

 

Hi Dave,

 

the Janus used in the recordings for the Golden Valley/Legomanbiffo sound is actually only accurate for one of the models, as built the Janus was fitted with 2x Rolls Royce C6SFL (6 cylinder supercharged engines) other than a handful of prototypes fitted with Cummins NT500 engines. At BSC Scunthorpe in order to reduce the noise from the locos they were re-engined with C6T (turbocharged engines) which drastically changed the tone of them, the loco they recorded for the sound (YE2877 of 1963 Appleby Frodingham No.1, preserved at the AFRPS Scunthorpe) is fitted with the latter. Other than the BSC Janus they released, all of the other models were C6SFL.

 

As for the YEC half Janus, the sound is suitable for anything fitted with a single rolls Royce C6SFL and is diesel electric (although the sound file isn’t the best).

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On a tangent, I'm building a Harton No.2 at present and the thought of DCC sound has occured to me. Fitting sound to the 0-4-0 is likely not going to be possible I expect though and not so keen on a attached wagon really. The bo-bo No. 13-15 however...

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4 hours ago, Kelly said:

On a tangent, I'm building a Harton No.2 at present and the thought of DCC sound has occured to me. Fitting sound to the 0-4-0 is likely not going to be possible I expect though and not so keen on a attached wagon really. The bo-bo No. 13-15 however...

You say that, I’ve seen sound fitted to the Hornby sentinel, peckett and even the 48DS!

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42 minutes ago, Narrow Gauge Jordan said:

You say that, I’ve seen sound fitted to the Hornby sentinel, peckett and even the 48DS!

 

In some respects, the Harton No.2/No.10 is even smaller than a 48DS! It is lower and has small bonnets either side of a small cab.

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10 hours ago, Narrow Gauge Jordan said:

You say that, I’ve seen sound fitted to the Hornby sentinel, peckett and even the 48DS!

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/148716-hornbys-rh-48ds-for-analogue-control/

10 hours ago, Kelly said:

In some respects, the Harton No.2/No.10 is even smaller than a 48DS! It is lower and has small bonnets either side of a small cab.

Use Paul's work as a starting point for ideas.

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Dave,

 

Will you add my Ruston 165 sound project to your list, please?

 

Best regards,

 

Paul

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54 minutes ago, pauliebanger said:

Dave,

 

Will you add my Ruston 165 sound project to your list, please?

 

Best regards,

 

Paul

I will, Paul. Is it DS or DE?

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29 minutes ago, pauliebanger said:

DS Dave.

New model of car by Citroen?

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Looking on Digitrains website shows a sound decoder for a Bagnall diesel. The photo with it is one of those cheapo Hornby things that looks like no Bagnall I've ever seen. Does anyone know what loco this sound actually goes with and what engine is in it? And is the sound file any good?

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