Guest WM183 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Hi all. I would like to scratchbuild some LBSC, SECR, and LSWR wagons in 7mm scale. W irons are available luckily for most of them, and close enough in other cases, but springs and axleboxes seem to be in short supply since ABS went by the wayside. What does everyone do to get these bits? Amanda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Same concern for accurate axleboxes of late Victorian / early Edwardian GWR wagons.... for which one answer is 3D printing. And yes, that reply brings a different question.... where to get information?.... for which the answer comes from:- * official drawings held at the NRM; * measurements of prototypes - generally at Didcot. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2021 I have the same issue for the Cambrian and a couple of other companies. For a few companies mostly Scottish Invertrain has castings - also a wide range of buffers, the other necessity (except for dumb buffered wagons!). Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: I have the same issue for the Cambrian I'm already working on that... Though I could really use clarification of what is actually written on the front of the boxes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 As said, 3D printed items would be ideal. I recall seeing Iain Rice in one of his 4mm wagon books making axleboxes from lumps of plastic, strip and sheet. For some of my 4mm scratchbuilds, I made springs from laminating plastic sheet: Slice through the stack to make the individual springs: I bought parts from Parkside in the past. There are Southern wagons in the range so perhaps Peco are willing to do the same. John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2021 Cambrian axleboxes: a good question. I have very few photos. The only "evidence" I have is this: A screen grab from Mike Lloyd's drawing of a Pickering built 4 plank wagon of 1902. None of the manufacturers' drawings (Metropolitan or Cambrian) seem to bother with such things. Of course the staff building the wagon would not need to be told if they were at Oswestry, and probably otherwise the Cambrian supplied a drawing (now lost of course). But even if this was the style in 1902 what about 1892? Perhaps we should all switch to 2 mm when such questions would be unnecessary. Jonathan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2021 Or use Peter Denny's approach - leave it to the imagination, but he had the advantage of no digital photography or cruel enlargements of pictures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) A couple of blow-ups from photos of the Cambrian 15 ton loco coal wagons, again fairly late. And not particularly clear (HMRS photos ABY535 and ACP216. Again modern and not very clear, and I suspect that you already have them, Jonathan Edited January 4, 2021 by corneliuslundie Add text 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simonmcp Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2021 I can make out CAMBRIAN in the top arc and RAILWAY (?) in the bottom arc so wondering what the extra character/letter is after RAILWAY. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Star Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 The company was "Cambian Railways" (plural) rather than "Cambrian Railway". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ianmaccormac Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2021 There are a number of spring and axleboxes for LBSCR wagons and carriages that I have drawn and 3D printed. Some have been shown on Poppywoodtech's website, some on my blog IanMacCormacModels back in 2019 and I have drawn many more since. All available at reasonable prices. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 We will be making all the parts from our 7mm kits available on the website over the next month. Marc Dobson Pre-Grouping Railway 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 There are lots of different Cambrian axlebox lettering styles. The Pickering ones I've always wondered whether it really was a 9 above the date. They are RCH No.9 axleboxes after all... Some earlier ones have quite the essay on them, of which I can make out nothing. Oil ones had the Cambrian Railways circular, the date and OIL on there, though there were a couple of patterns of box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2021 This is the oil axlebox on drawing 1187 of a Cambrian brake van, self explanatory Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 05/01/2021 at 17:42, corneliuslundie said: This is the oil axlebox on drawing 1187 of a Cambrian brake van, self explanatory Jonathan I wonder if they did build it with that cover plate, certainly unorthodox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Pickering ones available now through Shapeways.... https://www.shapeways.com/shops/coastlinemodels?section=7mm+-+Cambrian+Railways&s=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2021 The Cambrian drawing does look like the upper photo in my earlier post. That is a photo of Pickering built wagon 2450 of 1904, as opposed to your grease boxes - which should be very useful. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarryscapes Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 17 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: The Cambrian drawing does look like the upper photo in my earlier post. That is a photo of Pickering built wagon 2450 of 1904, as opposed to your grease boxes - which should be very useful. Jonathan The box does yes, but the cover is totally different to either. Looks like it's been designed specially to be refilled without the step board getting in the way. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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