When is a Jinty not a LMS 3F tank

[relaxinghobby]

 

When is a Jinty not a Jinty, here are 4 models which is the most accurate, probably number two from the top with the red roof, and the most modern model a Bachmann repainted to industrialise it for a private railway scheme. Top one is a Hornby, no a Triang R52, I had to check, nicely painted in Southern green and fits onto the current Hornby chasssis. Any chassis as underneath there is a central slot for almost any size of motor and chassis block.

Third down is a white-metal version nice and heavy and would enhance the haulage power of the current lightweight Hornby chassis but needs a lot of modifications to either the chassis or body so they can fit together.

 

 

The lower one is some diecast toy, looks the part until held against truer models and then is shown to be much shorter, is it H0 rather than 00 or just a toy makers impressionistic engine. They all await in the scrap box for some sort of new life. Apart from the Bachmann Jinty which cam as a runner and so far remains a runner.

One feature that does not show up in the photos is the differences in width. In the same order as the picture we have;

34 mm across tanks

35

33.5

29.5

 

 

So length and width varies, keep them separate and no one will notice?

And which range did the white-metal come from ?

 

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[Canal Digger]

What gauge is the diecast Jinty? in my photo are 3 possibilities, from the left:

1. A Morestone example ~15mm gauge, 29mm across the bunker. 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' part of the casting
2. A Budgie (company brand name change from Morestone) ~15mm gauge, 29mm across the bunker. 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' in form of a label.
3. An example from a Glasgow instrument maker, whose  name eludes me at moment ~23mm gauge, 34mm across the empty bunker. 'LMS' part of the casting

 

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[Steamport Southport]

Can't see as it's a poorly composed photograph, but the whitemetal kit might be a Cotswold/Sutherland.

 

But it needs a proper photo as it may be the K's kit of the rebuilt MR 3F which were slightly shorter in reality, but with different cabs and bunker to the LMS built version.

 

Like this, not all had the condensing pipes.

 

https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2822011

 

 

Jason

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[relaxinghobby]

Manage to catch some sunshine which is always the best light to show detail and close ups.

With spring coming along nicely my photography window, more time as the sun shines on that side of the building more giving more time with good light for photography.

So some more views for yous.

 

 

The die cast loco, although crudely moulded see photo of the front footplate and buffer beam for example. I think it has potential and some careful filing down of things like that hump over the buffers might give a usable model, cut some windows with a mini drill and grinding wheels perhaps?

 

 

Looks like a Hornby chassis could be made to fit just cut off that metal lump ahead of the motor.

 

 

 

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The white metal kit in close up, space under the boiler.

Again the Hornby chassis if the metal lump is cut off could fit, perhaps some more surgery to it, file down the top to go under the footplate.

 

 

I had thought of converting this one to a Johnson Midland railway tank, the one with the lower side tanks around the cab doors and narrower side tanks. Possible, maybe.

 

 

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The red plastic bits are the remains of an old project to convert an early Triang Jinty into it's narrower Johnson predecessor, as you can see it did not work. The plastic is a very hard one that resisted the normal polystyrene kit glues. A Triang R52 body again.

 

 

 

Seeing it cut up like this reminds me of an argument about introducing new plastic loco kits like the original Airfix and Dapol continuations, whilst there are plenty of second hand bodies around, these cut be cut up and the bits turned into new types. Consider them as a kind of kits.

 

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[Steamport Southport]

The black one is a Cotswold kit. Got an unbuilt one on the top awaiting a chassis.

 

Probably the only one which is accurate.

 

 

Jason

[Canal Digger]

Yes, the diecast is a Budgie body into which a (Triang?) motor has been fitted.  Can now see the location pin sockets immediately above the 'lumps' pointing down to the rear of the front buffers and the hole for the drive pin in the similar place forward of the rear buffers  

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