Guest TomTank Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Morning all I would be interested to know what varnish you chaps use. I generally use for modelling, Matt Humbrol Varnish, but as has been said by others, you can get a frost like effect that ruins the detail. So I would be interested what other sprays are out there that are more suitable Cheers tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 You could use artists spray acrylic varnish made by Windsor & Newton.Available in Matt & Satin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Hullo, Tom, For what purpose are you wanting to varnish something? I use a variety of things for different purposes, Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TomTank Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Hullo, Tom, For what purpose are you wanting to varnish something? I use a variety of things for different purposes, Doug Hi Doug Really I'm just referring to the scalescenes kits. Something that doesn't leave the frosted glaze that the Humbrol ones do. Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Hullo, Tom, If you want to preserve weathering work etc then Tony's suggestion is spot on, if expensive. I use hobby store acrylic stuff or car stuff and apply in 2-3 very light coats to avoid 'frosting' but be aware that some printer inks can take on a greenish tinge. I have messed up a roof this way, [Epson ink, which other wise is pretty tough and takes watercolour weathering without running] but have found that a light coat of Lidl W5 water-proofer spray sold for suede shoes, anoraks etc applied as soon as the sheets come out of the printer prevents this. [About £2-£3 a tin] I also spray it into the lid and apply it generously with a brush to the lower edges of platforms etc or wherever there is a chance of moisture from ballasting seeping into the card model alongside. To prevent window glaze from being over sprayed I cut out and insert bits of post-it notes. Hope this helps, Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 I prefer 'Purity Seal' from games Workshop, its cheap(ish) and it provides a wonderful satin finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty55 Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Tom, I tried the Windsor & Newton Matt Varnish first but discovered that it made the ink jet printing go whitish after it dried. After the event I think I found a comment to that effect somewhere on John's website. Since then I've tried Daler-Rowney Perfix Colourless Fixative for Pastels ( I got it from Hobbycraft ) and that doesn't alter the colours from my inkjet at all. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubber Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Tom, I tried the Windsor & Newton Matt Varnish first but discovered that it made the ink jet printing go whitish after it dried. After the event I think I found a comment to that effect somewhere on John's website. Since then I've tried Daler-Rowney Perfix Colourless Fixative for Pastels ( I got it from Hobbycraft ) and that doesn't alter the colours from my inkjet at all. Dave My only thoughts on some of these high-end 'fixitives' is that they 'fix', i.e. stabilise powder and crayon surfaces, but do they waterproof the surface too? It may be nice to know that a fine-art pastel drawing in 40 different delicate shades will not be discoloured, have U.V. protection and be of archival quality, but how many such pictures are glued down next to next to ballasting operations, picked up by the printed surface etc etc? I'm not knocking the idea, just concerned that we need a sou'wester and raincoat for our model buildings,not cashmere shawls...? Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lofty55 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Sorry no guarantees about it’s waterproof / showerproof ness. I may do a little test next weekend if I get time. I’ve not noticed any issues from when I’ve been spraying water for the ballast but I haven’t looked that closely, the 'fixed' area isn't in the most accessible part of my layout. Worried now !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold barney121e Posted October 25, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2010 How many coats of varnish would people recommend? And do you varnish every sheet or just the print only one's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalescenes Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 How many coats of varnish would people recommend? And do you varnish every sheet or just the print only one's? Generally the 'Print only' sheets are the ones that benefit the most from a couple of light coats of matt spray varnish as the elements on these sheets usually get wrapped around corners and folded. Personally though I would apply varnish over all the sheets (obviously not the 'base layers' sections) prior to cutting out or starting construction, much easier and will protect the print surface during construction. If you are planning to weather the models with scrapped pastels, chalks or weathering powders then a matt surface will also greatly aid adhesion. It sounds obvious, but always test the which ever spray you use on a scrap of print first to make sure it doesn't adversely effect your ink or toner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Job's Modelling Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 I have asked some advise for wheatering materials and a good varnish in an large shop for art materials.I showed for what purpose, i want to use it.He recommended an universal varnish with an uv filter.Also usable for farnishing your finished model after wheatering. A varnish for pastels may demage the colour of your model after a time. I don't know if they have such a product in the UK, but the information is I hope usefull. Job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted May 14, 2011 Share Posted May 14, 2011 Hi Guys Whilst at the Scalescenes stand at Warley I spoke with another visitor who recommended the following from 7dayshop.com Ghiant Aerosol - Inkjet Fixative/Varnish Spray 300ml - I have used this company many times and they are first class suppliers. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilM Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Does anyone know whether any of these recommendations prevent slug/snail damage? (indoors I might add ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted June 3, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2011 I use Vallejo matt acrylic spray varnish which works well on all mediums. I don't know if it'll prevent damage to slugs or snails indoors though, I keep mine outside ... Hi Paul, Do you have a source of supply for the Vallejo product, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Capt., I've just found out my original source is another retail casualty, however a quick google search found this list which may help http://www.creativem...ufacturers_id=3 brgds Don't know about the currency of this site - they're offering pre-ordering for the 2010 catalogue and listing a model shop that closed over 3 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Amazon - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vallejo-400ml-Acrylic-Varnish-Spray/dp/B000R9QHWO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307304319&sr=8-1 Model Hobbies - http://www.modelhobbies.co.uk/shop/vallejo-400ml-matt-acrylic-varnish-spray-p-10132.html Netmerchants - http://www.netmerchants.co.uk/product.php/12566/matt_varnish_500ml_bottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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