ianwales Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hi all Anyone got any suggestions as to which of the current diesel classes sound decoders would most likely be suitable for a model of the LMS 10000 co-co diesel please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Williams Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Best would be a Howes sound file for a Class 40 with a single tone horn. EDIT: Just been chatting to Bryan and the best that is possible is a healthy approximation using the Class 40 sound file, so it would be a special request from Howes if you ring up, available on the Loksound XL, V3.5 and micro decoder. The whistle Bryan says is far less prominent and has been taken from a bit of sound of them going up Shap. LMS 10000 had the English Electric 16SVT Mark 1 engine, Class 40 used the English Electric 16SVT MkII engine, so you can see why it would be as good as we can get at this stage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plarailfan Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I recently went to see Pete Waterman's layout, and he has one of these loco's fitted with a sound chip - it sounded a bit like a class 37. (This is O gauge modelling) There's loads of clips, showing Pete's layout on you tube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 There's a couple of recordings of them on Shap by Peter Handford on the CD 'Decades of the Diesels' (and one of 10203 also). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I recently went to see Pete Waterman's layout, and he has one of these loco's fitted with a sound chip - it sounded a bit like a class 37. (This is O gauge modelling)There's loads of clips, showing Pete's layout on you tube. We watched a few DVDs at club where 10000-1 appeared and we all said 40! They definitely whistled. Go with Cliff and Bryan and tell Waterman he's got it wrong?! LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmudriver Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I fitted a Howes' chip of 10000 sound to a model for a pal of mine - in 0 gauge. We had a visitor to the club who used to be a fitter and who worked on them. He said the sound was just right - he couldn't fault it!! Rod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsOatcake Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 The class 37 sound will be all wrong. It's based on a twelve cylinder beat rather than the 16 cylinder noise of a 16SVT installed in the the Class 40's and the 10000/1 locos. Hatton';s have a video of their 4mm loco on test and I'm looking forward to receiving mine and maybe a class 40 sound chip to add to it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikitriki Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Hi I put a couple of clips on Youtube of my 7mm scale Howes loksound XL equipped 10001. I haven't a clue how realistic it is - I have had it said there is too much turbo whistle, but hey, I like it! Cheers Richard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikitriki Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) oops, posted 2x, sorry Edited January 6, 2012 by dikitriki Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorp Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Dikitriki, Sounds great but then i have never heard the real one but as you state you are happy thats all that matters Cheers Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) The class 37 sound will be all wrong. It's based on a twelve cylinder beat rather than the 16 cylinder noise of a 16SVT installed in the the Class 40's and the 10000/1 locos. Hatton';s have a video of their 4mm loco on test and I'm looking forward to receiving mine and maybe a class 40 sound chip to add to it too. It is correct that 10000 has a 16 cylinder engine and the 37 a 12 cylinder engine, from the Handford recording of 10000 on Shap, opinions give the 37 as a valid choice, remember that 10000 was only 1600 bhp and not the 2000 bhp of a class 40, plus the turbo chargers are very different ( Brown Boveri)? Pete Waterman's choice of the 37 for his 10000 was based upon his assessment of the Handford recording. Of course one day in the distant future we may hear the real thing, the Ivatt 10000 Society have a vintage 10000 diesel engine that had been a standby diesel generator Edited August 6, 2018 by Pandora Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I know this post is old but I wondered if anyone still reading it? I’m just trying to decide whether to fit the 37 or 40 decoder to my new LMS 10000? . Read both arguments. But if I went for the 37, which version? They sell 37/0 and 37/4 Any thoughts B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry.ecmr Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 03/12/2009 at 21:04, Cliff Williams said: Best would be a Howes sound file for a Class 40 with a single tone horn. EDIT: Just been chatting to Bryan and the best that is possible is a healthy approximation using the Class 40 sound file, so it would be a special request from Howes if you ring up, available on the Loksound XL, V3.5 and micro decoder. The whistle Bryan says is far less prominent and has been taken from a bit of sound of them going up Shap. LMS 10000 had the English Electric 16SVT Mark 1 engine, Class 40 used the English Electric 16SVT MkII engine, so you can see why it would be as good as we can get at this stage Bryan did a sound chip for my 10000 when it first came out. Absolutely delighted with it and always received compliments when running on 'Earl's Court' Highly recommended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 LMS 10000 had no Whistle from the roof fans, its probably more like a Class 37 than a Class 40, but very heavy and underpowered, it had the feel of a Class 50 under power on Honiton Bank. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Williams Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 This is the Howes LMS 10001 on an XL V4 chip 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Bear Digital Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 10/01/2022 at 17:48, Butler said: I know this post is old but I wondered if anyone still reading it? I’m just trying to decide whether to fit the 37 or 40 decoder to my new LMS 10000? . Read both arguments. But if I went for the 37, which version? They sell 37/0 and 37/4 Any thoughts B If your gonna use a 37 then use the 37/0 version. The 37/4 will have the sound of the starter motor which woul be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 14, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 12/01/2022 at 22:04, charliepetty said: LMS 10000 had no Whistle from the roof fans, its probably more like a Class 37 than a Class 40, but very heavy and underpowered, it had the feel of a Class 50 under power on Honiton Bank. i fitted a class 50 decoder to my 10000 and deleted the high horn sound from the function list. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold zr2498 Posted November 12, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) On 14/01/2022 at 08:50, RedgateModels said: i fitted a class 50 decoder to my 10000 and deleted the high horn sound from the function list. Having read a number of threads on sound for 10000 & 10001, it would seem that there are quite differing opinions. The 50 has the same diesel engine EE16CSVT, but has greater power than the twins at 2,700 bhp including turbochargers. Having heard the Digitrains class 50 sound it seems great, and does not have the 'whistle' of the class 40 (which I read was not present?) So 50 might be the route. I guess, that I cannot read a Zimo decoder on a Lokprogrammer, so not so easy to remove the high horn with mapping. Easy to remove from function list, but is there a CV change to do the same? Found this sound recording: Seems very close to the Class 50, rather than the 10000 in this Digitrains video. Edited November 12, 2023 by zr2498 Extra info found 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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