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Having found a few of my less successful ferry van scratchbuilds today, I thought I should really start a thread that put mine all in one place.

 

First up a DB Hfs van, scratchbuilt in plasticard, with my own etched vents.

 

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Next a Tcefs sliding roof van with end doors van.

 

Again in plasticard withy my own etched vents.

 

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and the real thing at Bochum Dahlhausen

 

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Then onto Belgium with a very early van, surprisingly these lasted in international traffic until at least 1973.

 

I've built two of these in plasticard, one has been built as a complete van, and the other was modified to be a m,aster for resin casting more

 

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and the real thing

 

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Next up a transfesa blue - I'm still not totally convinced the proportions are right, I may yet build a second to act as a master for casting

 

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Next getting into my own era rather better - Silver Bullets - before Dapol did theirs, I took a length of the plastic tube (of the type that you used to get thermal fax paper wrapped around) and chopped it up to make a master, and then copied it in resin

 

The master

 

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a bare resin tank

 

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the tank with a plasticard chassis, the ladder over the top is ex-lima tanker, and the platforms and ferry fittings are my own etching, Cambrian Y25 bogie sideframes, with my own etched inners

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I have 5 shiny ones done entirely myself

 

 

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And 3 grubby ones that were built for me by Roger Tuke, and then weathered by Mark Lambert

 

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Moving further from vans, here are a Grainflow and a Polybulk from bits of Jouef HO Polybulks and plasticard - I must dig these out and take a more up to date snap, but, as with rather a lot of my stock, they still need finishing...

 

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and finally (for the moment) a less successfull scratchbuild. The intent was to build half of a cargowaggon 'holdall' van (really a covered flat), and having built half, I would use that as a master to produce lots more in resin - I can't remember what went wrong with the first one (only the roof remains) and the second wasn't sufficiently symetrical to be worth casting.

 

I was really pleased with the third, and glued extentions to the bottom, so that I could make the mould - disaster - too much solvent and the whole thing distorted. I still haven't built the fourth...

 

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Crackin' stuff, Jon. Who did the transfers for you?

 

The Hfs is a mixture of Gassner and Precision labels. The Tcefs were produced for me by Precicion lables I had to send him all the text, first as photo's then as word files, but it was worth it in the end - the roof instructions are readable in four langages! Unfortunately John indicated that he didn't think demand was all that high for this sort of thing, and that he wasn't really willing to do more foreign wagons - which is one of the reasons that the nbelgian vans are still unpainted.

 

Jon

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A little more progress today, a coat of red oxide primer went onto the two Belgian vans. I'll paint them brown, and I think I've reconsiled myself to not having the full Societe Anglo Belgique de Ferry Boat lettering, and making do with just a UIC number and the standard continental van markings...

 

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And then onto the Polybulks and Grainflows - these have been sitting around for some time, but today the less complete of the polybulks gained hopper opening wheels, and I cycled off to Halfords to see what paint might be available for the green and grey.

 

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The grainflows look good (as do the ferry wagons). Are the drawings they're sitting on for a grainflow wagon?

 

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Next up a transfesa blue .... I may yet build a second to act as a master for casting

 

If that's the one from the 1950s and you do, I'll take a few off you.

 

Did I send you the font for those German transfers? I also have the artwork for at least part of your SBAFB wagons if you want some (the 'B' and the anchor especially). Are yours going to be brown with white lettering? If you do the artwork yourself and just send to John Peck as a pdf he'll print it for you. He only chargd me a tenner for those French ones I've just finished.

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Did I send you the font for those German transfers? I also have the artwork for at least part of your SBAFB wagons if you want some (the 'B' and the anchor especially). Are yours going to be brown with white lettering? If you do the artwork yourself and just send to John Peck as a pdf he'll print it for you. He only chargd me a tenner for those French ones I've just finished.

 

Yes, the plan is brown with white lettering - anything you have would be welcome - it would be much easierif I was doing black on white livery.

 

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Hi Jon,

 

A very interesting collection of wagons. Always good to read through a scratch-builder's thread. It's a pity there is way of custom-printing the transfers you need for the Belgian vans. Are there no suppliers of transfers in Belgium? There is or was a company called Jocadis who might have supplied this sort of thing.

 

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A very interesting collection of wagons. Always good to read through a scratch-builder's thread. It's a pity there is way of custom-printing the transfers you need for the Belgian vans. Are there no suppliers of transfers in Belgium? There is or was a company called Jocadis who might have supplied this sort of thing.

 

 

I have just had a quick look at the Jocadis website, and they do a few sets of loco transfers in yellow, but no wagons - however I hadn't realised they had a shop, or that it was actually in a station building on a main rail route from Brussels, so next time I'm on the continent I will make sure I take a trip out there.

 

thanks,

Jon

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I hope this doesn't count as a hijack; Jon was kind enough to let me have some of his cast Belgian vans for my own ferry van project and here some of them are backdated to 1950s condition and running on Thurston:

 

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Transfers are mainly my own using GIMP and Crafty Computer Paper. The corner markers, which are white on black, were done for me by John Peck.

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Transfers are mainly my own using GIMP and Crafty Computer Paper. The corner markers, which are white on black, were done for me by John Peck.

Yes, you have the advantage that non-white transfers are relatively easy to produce at home, I'm almost tempted to do a white one just to get it finished.I have the 'standard' continental markings (the chevrons in the corner, and RIV numbers) from various German sheets, although I need to replace the 80 DB codes with 88 B codes, and I can probably get enough ferry 'not Whitstable' instructions off the transfers that you and I have commissioned from John Peck. I thought I'd seen a photo with the sylised SNCB 'B' logo instead of the SBAFB, but perhaps I just wished that.Jon

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The one you photted and sent me a couple of years ago was still in white, wasn't it... The one in David Larkin doesn't have a B at all and that's more in your era.

 

I can't remember what font I used now but as I said JP will print artwork for you in white for not very much. I got the same reaction as you when I asked him about doing lettering for those French vans (fair enough, he's got his priorities) so I ended up doing it myself and just sending him a file.

 

If you do want any of the artwork I've done, just let me know. The only one I don't have all of is the Italian van.

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Jon,

I've had a look through a few of your threads and links. I was just wondering what your preferences were with regards to styrene thickness for the main box bodies of your ferry vans. I'm building a IVA cargowaggon for the rmweb challenge and feel as though the styrene I'm using is a little thick. Mainly 2mm for the body, square panels its OK but for shaped ends its tough going.

 

Any pointers?

 

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Dave

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Jon,

I've had a look through a few of your threads and links. I was just wondering what your preferences were with regards to styrene thickness for the main box bodies of your ferry vans. I'm building a IVA cargowaggon for the rmweb challenge and feel as though the styrene I'm using is a little thick. Mainly 2mm for the body, square panels its OK but for shaped ends its tough going.

 

All of the wagons that are planked use 40thou (1mm) evergreen sheet that comes with the planking pre-scribed, the Interfrigo is using 30thou for the sides, but 40 for the ends. The roof is usually in 20thou. I would be surprised if you really need something as thick as 2mm except as the floor, and even 60thou is a bit too thick to be easy to work with. I suspect I also use a much bigger file to shape plasticard than most - I few light wipes with a wide coarse file is much easier than lots of frantic filing with a needle file.

 

 

Jon

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Thanks for the reply Jon.

I'll probably finish the first one I've built with 80thou and re do the dimensions for a thinner card for the next one.

 

Many thanks

Dave

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I tend to build mine in plain 40 thou and make them 1mm too small all round. They are then clad in either Evergreen or Slaters moulded 20 thou, depending what planking is required. I tend to use the Slaters for 6" (or so) planks as the different colour makes it easier to see detail as you add it later.

 

Opens (I have two building ATM) I did with 30 thou and scribed the planks very gently. They've still warped and will need to be loaded so I can use the load to brace the sides out.

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